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Mike Hunter
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Tue Nov 22, 2005 5:31 am Post subject:
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I hope you are you putting away some money to replace the battery pack a
some point. Current cost of the Escape battery pack is over $7,000 ;)
mike
<dold@XReXXStill.usenet.us.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | In alt.autos.ford Mike Hunter <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
car, the Corolla. Buyers looking at the other hybrids have the
opportunity
to compare it to the convention powered models. When they do it quickly
become apparent that the premium price of driving home the hybrid model
will buy nearly ALL of the fuel to power the conventional model for
several
years
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| Quote: | I say 100,000 miles for my Ford Escape. That may be 10 years for some
people, two or three for others.
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Tue Nov 22, 2005 6:01 am Post subject:
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Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
| Quote: | The whole idea of hybrids is stupid. Just make cars smaller and leave
out all the useless crap. Detroit could easily build a 2500 pound
family car that gives 40 mpg and costs $8,000 brand new and gives
250,000 trouble-free miles on nothing but routine maintenance.
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But then they wouldn't be able to pay the salaries of those socialist
UAW members, would they? |
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Spike
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Tue Nov 22, 2005 7:39 am Post subject:
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On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 18:26:58 -0500, "Mike Hunter"
<mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
| Quote: | The car that Chrysler studied back in the early sixties was a gasoline
turbine engine, not a jet engine. Its exhaust was no hotter than a
convention engine. A friend of mine had the opportunity to test run one for
a year they were all paint eh same bronzy color ;)
mike
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And here I thought jet engines were turbines.... That's what they
called them in the UH-1s and many others. Thought the only difference
was the aircraft were using them as direct propulsion, while the one I
recall from Popular Mechanics and Popular Science worked on the same
principle but were used to drive gears for propulsion.
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"Spike" <jma@snowcrest.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 17:36:11 GMT, Backyard Mechanic
pettyfog@yaywho.com> wrote:
"Daniel J. Stern" <dastern@127.0.0.1> wrote:
HEh... I've been hearing the 'news' of wonderful new automotive tech
since I was a kid and I'm now in my sixties....like the experimental
Chrysler asphalt-melter turbine car of the fifties
That's cute and all, but not accurate. Even the earliest turbine cars'
exhaust was of comparable temperature to standard cars' exhaust as it
exited the tailpipe.
Is that right?!!!
Granted, the only real problem was at long stops at stop signs, signals,
etc... where DID that turbine heat go?
You might want to consider the Harrier Jump jet and the damage it does
to the runway and parking apron surfaces not protected. While a
turbine powered vehicle may not damage the asphalt.... It may have
some detrimental affect upon any vehicle behind it... especially when
the light turns green.... : 0 )
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Spike
1965 Ford Mustang Fastback 2+2, Vintage Burgundy
w/Black Std Interior, A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok;
Vintage 40 16" rims w/225/50ZR16 KDWS BF Goodrich
gForce Radial T/As, Cobra drop; surround sound
audio-video...
See my ride at....
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Spike
1965 Ford Mustang Fastback 2+2, Vintage Burgundy
w/Black Std Interior, A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok;
Vintage 40 16" rims w/225/50ZR16 KDWS BF Goodrich
gForce Radial T/As, Cobra drop; surround sound
audio-video...
See my ride at....
Feb 2004- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/003_May_21_3004.jpg
Feb 2004- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/005_May_21_2004.jpg
Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/davescar_7_11_05_002.jpg
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X-rated Vermonter
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Tue Nov 22, 2005 8:50 am Post subject:
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On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 11:34:20 GMT, "Daniel Armstrong"
<danielthechskid@mchsi.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I personally do not own a prius yet but I think sometimes you have to
balance out all of the bad things about the prius with some of the good. Also the NiMh traction batteries
will not be filling up landfills they are being recycled presumably into new
traction batteries and/or being made into consumer AAA, AA, etc size cells
for your home use. Speaking of consumer rechargeables the mass-production of
the traction batteries has desirable side affects. Less than a year ago the
highest capacity AA size NiMh I could find were 2300mAh and those were from
1 brand with all of the others being lower capacity, last week I picked up
an 8 pack of 2500mAh ones and there were about 4 brands to choose from at
that capacity.
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I never knew that the Prius ran on AA NiMh batteries.
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Spam Hater
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Tue Nov 22, 2005 9:14 am Post subject:
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In article <9o45o1lemcula40k16b5gkp6qfhfvno2eh@4ax.com>,
laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I change the oil every 1500 miles
Too soon.
and grease the front end every 1000.
Very frequent.
And i change the air filter and plugs and rotor/cap every 10k or so.
Too frequent for the plugs.
That's what i'm talking about. My present vehicle has 190K on it and
is as happy as a republican at a bathhouse.
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Your current vehicle must be very old to require such frequent oil and
plug changes. If it isn't old you're wasting the environment. |
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Spam Hater
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Tue Nov 22, 2005 9:14 am Post subject:
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In article <1132594524.171967.66920@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | The whole idea of hybrids is stupid. Just make cars smaller and leave
out all the useless crap. Detroit could easily build a 2500 pound
family car that gives 40 mpg and costs $8,000 brand new and gives
250,000 trouble-free miles on nothing but routine maintenance.
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For more money you can now get a European car giving more MPG and more
trouble free miles. |
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Daniel Armstrong
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Tue Nov 22, 2005 9:14 am Post subject:
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It doesnt run on AA size but the development of better, lighter, and higher
capacity modules for the car helps to make all sizes and shapes of cells
better(the original 1997-2000 model in japan only did use "D" size cells in
the traction battery) |
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Brent P
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Tue Nov 22, 2005 9:14 am Post subject:
Re: Hybrid Lovers Read This and Lament |
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In article <Pine.GSO.4.63.0511211139020.28586@alumni.engin.umich.edu>, Daniel J. Stern wrote:
| Quote: | NiMH batteries are indeed hair-raisingly toxic and expensive to
reclaim/recycle. Once no longer in the dealer chain, they will simply get
tossed -- along with the rest of the car.
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And to think, the point where conventional cars could be entirely
recycled had just been reached.
(I was watching ask-this-old-house a couple weeks ago and they had a
landscaping railroad tie type thing that was made out out of the 'fluff',
the last 6% or so of material from automobilies that nobody had a use
for) |
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Robert \"Sheets\" Byrd
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Tue Nov 22, 2005 9:14 am Post subject:
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Ted 'defend me and be a criminal coddler' Kennedy wrote:
| Quote: | On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 01:10:45 -0500, Bill Putney <bptn@kinez.net> was
understood to have stated the following:
New plugs, rotor, and cap every 10k? That's not very smart.
He has to; his POS beater keeps fouling them out.
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Oh I see! :)
Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
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Ted 'defend me and be a c
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Tue Nov 22, 2005 9:14 am Post subject:
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On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 18:09:54 -0500, "Mike Hunter"
<mikehunt2@mailcity.com> was understood to have stated the following:
| Quote: | What would you expect form a guy that says Mrs. Bush murder someone? LOL
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Not much...
Which is exactly what we get.
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"Laura Bush Murdered Her Boyfriend" brags of it's homosexuallity:
the guys at the bath-house stopped laughing at my 3 inch weenie.
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/168e8e621dd649fb?hl=en
Joshua Calvert <joshua_l_calvert@hotmail.com> demonstrates his lack of understanding of the terms "sarcasm", "irony", and "hypocrisy":
Poor rightard, forced to whine about an 40 year old event.
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Ted 'defend me and be a c
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Tue Nov 22, 2005 9:14 am Post subject:
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On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 03:43:52 GMT, laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE
<xeton2001@yahoo.com> was understood to have stated the following:
| Quote: | I change the oil every 1500 miles and grease the front end every 1000.
And i change the air filter and plugs and rotor/cap every 10k or so.
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Damned, your car must be a real POS if you've got to change the plugs
and rotor/cap every 10k.
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"Laura Bush Murdered Her Boyfriend" brags of it's homosexuallity:
the guys at the bath-house stopped laughing at my 3 inch weenie.
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/168e8e621dd649fb?hl=en
Joshua Calvert <joshua_l_calvert@hotmail.com> demonstrates his lack of understanding of the terms "sarcasm", "irony", and "hypocrisy":
Poor rightard, forced to whine about an 40 year old event.
Message-ID: <Xns970A68202F1C5joshualcalverthotmai@68.6.19.6> |
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laura bush - VEHICULAR HO
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Tue Nov 22, 2005 9:14 am Post subject:
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On 21 Nov 2005 15:16:32 -0800, ILoveMySUV.dwpj65@spamgourmet.com
wrote:
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Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
necromancer wrote:
Laura Bush murdered her boy friend, <xeton2001@yahoo.com> was motivated
to say this in rec.autos.driving on 21 Nov 2005 09:35:24 -0800:
Detroit could easily build a 2500 pound
family car that gives 40 mpg and costs $8,000 brand new and gives
250,000 trouble-free miles on nothing but routine maintenance.
intro to business lesson
Then why don't they?
Cause they make more selling the $50,000 cars with all sorts of
useless gadgets. You think they sell AC and CD players and electric
seats at cost??
Have a good weekend at the bath house, pud licker?
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Ted 'defend me and be a c
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Tue Nov 22, 2005 9:14 am Post subject:
Re: Hybrid Lovers Read This and Lament |
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On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 01:10:45 -0500, Bill Putney <bptn@kinez.net> was
understood to have stated the following:
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New plugs, rotor, and cap every 10k? That's not very smart.
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He has to; his POS beater keeps fouling them out.
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"Laura Bush Murdered Her Boyfriend" brags of it's homosexuallity:
the guys at the bath-house stopped laughing at my 3 inch weenie.
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/168e8e621dd649fb?hl=en
Joshua Calvert <joshua_l_calvert@hotmail.com> demonstrates his lack of understanding of the terms "sarcasm", "irony", and "hypocrisy":
Poor rightard, forced to whine about an 40 year old event.
Message-ID: <Xns970A68202F1C5joshualcalverthotmai@68.6.19.6> |
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Bill Putney
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Tue Nov 22, 2005 9:14 am Post subject:
Re: Hybrid Lovers Read This and Lament |
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laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote:
| Quote: | ...And i change the air filter and plugs and rotor/cap every 10k or so.
That's what i'm talking about...
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New plugs, rotor, and cap every 10k? That's not very smart.
Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
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Bill Putney
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Tue Nov 22, 2005 9:14 am Post subject:
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Daniel J. Stern wrote:
| Quote: | This "melted asphalt" problem exists only in your head (and possibly in
the typewriters of certain ignorant motoring press yuk-yuks)
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However it is a real problem for Harrier jets in hover mode. :)
Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
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