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Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 9:02 pm    Post subject: WINTER TIRE DILEMMA, get them or not??? Reply with quote

Hi,

We plan to leave for Florida on or about the 10th of December via
Route 81 south and will be there for five months.

We pass through the mountains of Virginia and Pennsylvania on the way
down.

My concern is, Is there usually snow in the mountains in early
December, as we have all season radials. Should we purchase winter
tires before we start out? When we get to Florida, we cannot drive on
winter tires as they will wear down. We do not want to bring the all
season tires with us, as they take up too much space in trunk.

We cannot fly as airlines may not take pets at that time of year.

What do you recommend?

Roger

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badgolferman
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Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 9:42 pm    Post subject: Re: WINTER TIRE DILEMMA, get them or not??? Reply with quote

bigrog_98@yahoo.com, 11/17/2005, 10:02:20 AM,
<1132239740.488844.13360@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> wrote:

Quote:
Hi,

We plan to leave for Florida on or about the 10th of December via
Route 81 south and will be there for five months.

We pass through the mountains of Virginia and Pennsylvania on the way
down.

My concern is, Is there usually snow in the mountains in early
December, as we have all season radials. Should we purchase winter
tires before we start out? When we get to Florida, we cannot drive on
winter tires as they will wear down. We do not want to bring the all
season tires with us, as they take up too much space in trunk.

We cannot fly as airlines may not take pets at that time of year.

What do you recommend?

Roger

I drive through PA and VA and NY mountains all the time and have
managed to get through without winter tires. Since it is a major
thoroughfare they keep those roads clean. Also the tractor trailer
traffic blows almost all the snow off the roads anyway.

--
“It took me seventeen years to get 3,000 hits in baseball. I did it in
one afternoon on the golf course.” -- Hank Aaron
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Guest






Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 9:46 pm    Post subject: Re: WINTER TIRE DILEMMA, get them or not??? Reply with quote

Thanks for your reply. I did not want to buy and ruin new winter tires.

Roger

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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 12:13 am    Post subject: Re: WINTER TIRE DILEMMA, get them or not??? Reply with quote

AS noted, odds are about 96 percent you will not have problems. There
could be a freak storm on the day you jog over the mountains, but not
likely. If you want to be a little paranoid, you could buy a cheap set
of "just in case cable chains." Just know how to install them BEFORE
you leave on your trip and practice it.

In our mountains in the West you are required to carry chains this time
of year if you aren't running snow tires or studded tires. Your area
may not be so demanding.
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 1:36 am    Post subject: Re: WINTER TIRE DILEMMA, get them or not??? Reply with quote

timbirr@mailcity.com, 11/17/2005, 1:13:06 PM,
<1132251186.113850.187400@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> wrote:

Quote:
AS noted, odds are about 96 percent you will not have problems. There
could be a freak storm on the day you jog over the mountains, but not
likely.

Speaking of a freak storm, sometime in late 1989 or early 1990 I got
caught in a freak ice storm in the Pocono Mountains of Pennsylvania.
I-81 was a nothing but a sheet of ice and all the vehicles were
creeping along at inches per hour. The interstate was backed up for
miles and there was nowhere to go even if you had studs, chains,
spikes, or anything else attached to your wheels.
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ma_twain
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 8:35 pm    Post subject: Re: WINTER TIRE DILEMMA, get them or not??? Reply with quote

timbirr@mailcity.com wrote:

Quote:
AS noted, odds are about 96 percent you will not have problems. There
could be a freak storm on the day you jog over the mountains, but not
likely. If you want to be a little paranoid, you could buy a cheap set
of "just in case cable chains." Just know how to install them BEFORE
you leave on your trip and practice it.

In our mountains in the West you are required to carry chains this time
of year if you aren't running snow tires or studded tires. Your area
may not be so demanding.



That would be my sugestion. In fact, I was considering it as an option
to buying winter tires. The "cable chains" should be used on all four
tires because it would drive the ABS crazy to have two tires grabbing
and two locked everytime you stepped on the brakes. Unfortunately, a
good set of four chains cost as much as a set of winter tires and rims.
"Good" also includes the qualities of being easy to put on and less
likely to come off on its own. The advantage is they take up much less
space, important for you.
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 10:59 pm    Post subject: Re: WINTER TIRE DILEMMA, get them or not??? Reply with quote

"ma_twain" <ma_twain@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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timbirr@mailcity.com wrote:

AS noted, odds are about 96 percent you will not have problems. There
could be a freak storm on the day you jog over the mountains, but not
likely. If you want to be a little paranoid, you could buy a cheap set
of "just in case cable chains." Just know how to install them BEFORE
you leave on your trip and practice it.

In our mountains in the West you are required to carry chains this time
of year if you aren't running snow tires or studded tires. Your area
may not be so demanding.



That would be my sugestion. In fact, I was considering it as an option to
buying winter tires. The "cable chains" should be used on all four tires
because it would drive the ABS crazy to have two tires grabbing and two
locked everytime you stepped on the brakes. Unfortunately, a good set of
four chains cost as much as a set of winter tires and rims. "Good" also
includes the qualities of being easy to put on and less likely to come off
on its own. The advantage is they take up much less space, important for
you.

Having chains on only 2 tires instead of 4 should not drive the ABS crazy

unless you are stomping on the brakes on a very slippery surface, in which
case the ABS would be activated whether you have 2 or 4 chains. That said,
having chains on all 4 tires will allow better steering control.
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Ray O
correct the return address punctuation to reply
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 11:25 pm    Post subject: Re: WINTER TIRE DILEMMA, get them or not??? Reply with quote

"Cheapie" cable chains run about $20 per pair. Much cheaper than even
one winter tires. In a situation such as this where the odds of them
ever being used are slim or none, I would not want to spend any more
than that.

They are also fairly easy to put on.

For my own use, I have quick link diamond chains, which hit $75 per
pair. But I use mine several times a year and in deep, off-road
situations.....
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Jeff Strickland
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Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 3:38 am    Post subject: Re: WINTER TIRE DILEMMA, get them or not??? Reply with quote

Why not get a set of chains to use for a few miles, if they are needed?
Chains are a PIA as your "normal" way to manage winter weather, but when
your visit is just for a few hours once every few seasons, then they make
lots of sense.

The issue, of course, is if they will fit your car or not. If they fit, and
you won't need winter tires again for a very long time, then get a set of
chains and drive happy. I have never owned winter tires, but it's th emiddle
of November here, and we're getting temps that push 90.




<bigrog_98@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Hi,

We plan to leave for Florida on or about the 10th of December via
Route 81 south and will be there for five months.

We pass through the mountains of Virginia and Pennsylvania on the way
down.

My concern is, Is there usually snow in the mountains in early
December, as we have all season radials. Should we purchase winter
tires before we start out? When we get to Florida, we cannot drive on
winter tires as they will wear down. We do not want to bring the all
season tires with us, as they take up too much space in trunk.

We cannot fly as airlines may not take pets at that time of year.

What do you recommend?

Roger
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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 9:05 am    Post subject: Re: WINTER TIRE DILEMMA, get them or not??? Reply with quote

ADDENDUM:-
To whom ever who cares. I purchased yokohama winter tires.

Roger
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Sharx35
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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 9:18 am    Post subject: Re: WINTER TIRE DILEMMA, get them or not??? Reply with quote

<bigrog_98@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
ADDENDUM:-
To whom ever who cares. I purchased yokohama winter tires.

Roger

You just wasted hundreds of dollars.


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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 7:23 pm    Post subject: Re: WINTER TIRE DILEMMA, get them or not??? Reply with quote

Where I live winter tires are a necessity. All season tires are no good
in cold weather. For safety reasons I decided to purchase winter tires,
as I will be departing late in December.

The dealer mentioned I would cut the lifetime of the tire in half , but
I would see many northerners with winter tires down south.

Besides snow is predicted over the next few days and at the expense of
a proper tire and avoiding slippery conditions, I prefer to play safe.
I also have a new car.

Roger
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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 10:38 pm    Post subject: Re: WINTER TIRE DILEMMA, get them or not??? Reply with quote

Why the hell did you ask the question then.....
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Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 12:03 am    Post subject: Re: WINTER TIRE DILEMMA, get them or not??? Reply with quote

Because the conditions have changed up north and with snow predicted
for the next four days and with the delay in leaving, I think it is
wise to not take chances.

Thanks for your interest. Timb.
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Sharx35
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Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 1:51 am    Post subject: Re: WINTER TIRE DILEMMA, get them or not??? Reply with quote

<bigrog_98@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Because the conditions have changed up north and with snow predicted
for the next four days and with the delay in leaving, I think it is
wise to not take chances.

Thanks for your interest. Timb.


Up here in Edmonton, in Canada's sub Arctic, I've been running all seasons
for 25 years. Mainly city and major rural road driving. NO NEED for snow
tires. However, for regular rural driving, I'd opt for them.



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