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Nomen Nescio
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Fri Nov 18, 2005 12:50 am Post subject:
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Chairman and CEO Rick Waggoner, I want your job!! I can straighten out
your wretched concern.
Doesn't anybody at General Motors have any sense? Plastic engine covers
serve no purpose other than to make servicing more difficult and more
expensive. Services not done indirectly lead to reliability and safety
issues, because on out-of-warranty vehicles, the more expensive the
service, the less likely it is to be accomplished.
The Government needs to step in and make some design rules, since GM, Ford,
and Chrysler refuse. They think these plastic covers somehow make the
machinery more "exotic," or more likely, more "intimidating" to
do-it-yourselfers, leading to higher dealership service department volume.
Well, its all backfired. You are almost in Chapter 11.
A revolution at GM headquarters will be needed to save this basket case.
First on the agenda is a powerplant layout which ensures five minute R&R of
all common servicing components: alternator, fuel injection, starter, water
pump, battery, ignition parts. On conventional transmission cars, I want
to see a "drop-in clutch plate". That's for a start. The chassis and
accessories need equal attention for servicing. A good standard to use is
Air Force aircraft servicing specs. My understanding is a jet engine can
be R & R'd in 45 minutes flat using a four man crew. On today's cars,
once a car is out of warranty, its not economically practical to replace an
engine; that's how labor intensive it is.
Any decent engineer could write a book on GM cars and what absurdities they
are. Up one side and down the other, they are monstrous from the word go.
Too late to save GM, I'm afraid.
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80 Knight
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Fri Nov 18, 2005 7:12 am Post subject:
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"Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message
news:7536ab01014ef3d47bb72f0d37d5a4eb@dizum.com...
| Quote: | Chairman and CEO Rick Waggoner, I want your job!! I can straighten out
your wretched concern.
Doesn't anybody at General Motors have any sense? Plastic engine covers
serve no purpose other than to make servicing more difficult and more
expensive. Services not done indirectly lead to reliability and safety
issues, because on out-of-warranty vehicles, the more expensive the
service, the less likely it is to be accomplished.
The Government needs to step in and make some design rules, since GM,
Ford,
and Chrysler refuse. They think these plastic covers somehow make the
machinery more "exotic," or more likely, more "intimidating" to
do-it-yourselfers, leading to higher dealership service department volume.
Well, its all backfired. You are almost in Chapter 11.
A revolution at GM headquarters will be needed to save this basket case.
First on the agenda is a powerplant layout which ensures five minute R&R
of
all common servicing components: alternator, fuel injection, starter,
water
pump, battery, ignition parts. On conventional transmission cars, I want
to see a "drop-in clutch plate". That's for a start. The chassis and
accessories need equal attention for servicing. A good standard to use is
Air Force aircraft servicing specs. My understanding is a jet engine can
be R & R'd in 45 minutes flat using a four man crew. On today's cars,
once a car is out of warranty, its not economically practical to replace
an
engine; that's how labor intensive it is.
Any decent engineer could write a book on GM cars and what absurdities
they
are. Up one side and down the other, they are monstrous from the word go.
Too late to save GM, I'm afraid.
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If you think you can do so much better, make up a design for your 'perfect'
car and get someone to start producing it. GM is not going anywhere, so piss
off. |
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No One You Know
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Fri Nov 18, 2005 7:13 am Post subject:
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What a freekin idiot you are. Stop with the uninformed opinion and
research the facts then come back. By the way Skippy, there is a big
difference between a 25 million dollar aircraft and a 25 thousand
dollar car. The aircraft is for our national defense and the car for
leasure. Can you work on your TOYota or VW or BMW? No different than
GM. ALL THE SAME!
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Eugene Nine
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Fri Nov 18, 2005 7:18 am Post subject:
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Nomen Nescio wrote:
| Quote: | Chairman and CEO Rick Waggoner, I want your job!! I can straighten out
your wretched concern.
Doesn't anybody at General Motors have any sense? Plastic engine covers
serve no purpose other than to make servicing more difficult and more
expensive. Services not done indirectly lead to reliability and safety
issues, because on out-of-warranty vehicles, the more expensive the
service, the less likely it is to be accomplished.
They put those on because all the little imports do so the car magazines |
fault them if they don't do it.
Same with changing the dash to the non-ergonomic center stack design. |
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Harry Face
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Fri Nov 18, 2005 8:21 am Post subject:
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It takes all over 5 seconds to remove the engine cover from my cars. The
water pump is about a 35 minute job, the alternator is about 15 min and
the starter is maybe 30 minutes.
No way is it going to take 5 minutes on these type of items, maybe a
coil on 67 Malibu could be R & R'd in 5 minutes.
Harryface
05 Park Avenue, 32,391
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WaterWatcher
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Fri Nov 18, 2005 8:39 am Post subject:
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"Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message
news:7536ab01014ef3d47bb72f0d37d5a4eb@dizum.com...
| Quote: | Chairman and CEO Rick Waggoner, I want your job!! I can straighten out
your wretched concern.
Doesn't anybody at General Motors have any sense? Plastic engine covers
serve no purpose other than to make servicing more difficult and more
expensive. Services not done indirectly lead to reliability and safety
issues, because on out-of-warranty vehicles, the more expensive the
service, the less likely it is to be accomplished.
The Government needs to step in and make some design rules, since GM,
Ford,
and Chrysler refuse. They think these plastic covers somehow make the
machinery more "exotic," or more likely, more "intimidating" to
do-it-yourselfers, leading to higher dealership service department volume.
Well, its all backfired. You are almost in Chapter 11.
A revolution at GM headquarters will be needed to save this basket case.
First on the agenda is a powerplant layout which ensures five minute R&R
of
all common servicing components: alternator, fuel injection, starter,
water
pump, battery, ignition parts. On conventional transmission cars, I want
to see a "drop-in clutch plate". That's for a start. The chassis and
accessories need equal attention for servicing. A good standard to use is
Air Force aircraft servicing specs. My understanding is a jet engine can
be R & R'd in 45 minutes flat using a four man crew. On today's cars,
once a car is out of warranty, its not economically practical to replace
an
engine; that's how labor intensive it is.
Any decent engineer could write a book on GM cars and what absurdities
they
are. Up one side and down the other, they are monstrous from the word go.
Too late to save GM, I'm afraid.
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Well, just about everybody uses them now, so it's not just a GM fault. I've
never removed one of those covers, but I've assumed (I know, a dangerous
thing) that they contributed to noise suppression. I, like you, would just
like to see the engine when I lift the hood. On the few designs that I've
looked at, the covers are held on with only a few bolts, so it's probably
not a major problem as far as accessibility goes. As far as your insistence
that GM provide for easier to repair components, I agree to a point, but in
the real world, it's not really practical. Cars are far too complex for
that, and that's only going to get worse as time goes by. You could still
buy a, say, 1954 Chevy and get a car that's easy to work on, with no plastic
covers. But except for a nice Sunday drive to the car show, you would
probably not want it for transportation.
I do share your concern for GM's financial difficulties. However, that may
be because I'm older and I'm influenced by tradition. I'm not sure the
younger generations care much about whether the domestic manufacturers will
be around in another ten years. It's a changing world and the U.S. economy
has shifted from a manufacturing base to a service oriented base. Most of
the hot rodders and collectors of classic cars are of the older generations.
It would be sad if GM, Ford or Chrysler went under, but if they do, it won't
be because of plastic engine covers! Those of us who are older need to
adapt to a changing automotive world, and realize that what is under those
covers has a lineage traceable back to what we used to know.
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gad
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Fri Nov 18, 2005 8:53 am Post subject:
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The cover on my 2002 3800 series II comes off in about 2 seconds. The one
on my mother's Prizm (really a COROLLA!) takes longer (4 little bolts).
What's the big deal?
"Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message
news:7536ab01014ef3d47bb72f0d37d5a4eb@dizum.com...
| Quote: | Chairman and CEO Rick Waggoner, I want your job!! I can straighten out
your wretched concern.
Doesn't anybody at General Motors have any sense? Plastic engine covers
serve no purpose other than to make servicing more difficult and more
expensive. Services not done indirectly lead to reliability and safety
issues, because on out-of-warranty vehicles, the more expensive the
service, the less likely it is to be accomplished.
The Government needs to step in and make some design rules, since GM,
Ford,
and Chrysler refuse. They think these plastic covers somehow make the
machinery more "exotic," or more likely, more "intimidating" to
do-it-yourselfers, leading to higher dealership service department volume.
Well, its all backfired. You are almost in Chapter 11.
A revolution at GM headquarters will be needed to save this basket case.
First on the agenda is a powerplant layout which ensures five minute R&R
of
all common servicing components: alternator, fuel injection, starter,
water
pump, battery, ignition parts. On conventional transmission cars, I want
to see a "drop-in clutch plate". That's for a start. The chassis and
accessories need equal attention for servicing. A good standard to use is
Air Force aircraft servicing specs. My understanding is a jet engine can
be R & R'd in 45 minutes flat using a four man crew. On today's cars,
once a car is out of warranty, its not economically practical to replace
an
engine; that's how labor intensive it is.
Any decent engineer could write a book on GM cars and what absurdities
they
are. Up one side and down the other, they are monstrous from the word go.
Too late to save GM, I'm afraid.
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Jake
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Sat Nov 19, 2005 3:22 am Post subject:
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On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 20:12:13 -0500, "80 Knight"
<80_knightREMOVEME@rogers.com> wrote:
| Quote: | "Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message
news:7536ab01014ef3d47bb72f0d37d5a4eb@dizum.com...
Chairman and CEO Rick Waggoner, I want your job!! I can straighten out
your wretched concern.
Doesn't anybody at General Motors have any sense? Plastic engine covers
serve no purpose other than to make servicing more difficult and more
expensive. Services not done indirectly lead to reliability and safety
issues, because on out-of-warranty vehicles, the more expensive the
service, the less likely it is to be accomplished.
The Government needs to step in and make some design rules, since GM,
Ford,
and Chrysler refuse. They think these plastic covers somehow make the
machinery more "exotic," or more likely, more "intimidating" to
do-it-yourselfers, leading to higher dealership service department volume.
Well, its all backfired. You are almost in Chapter 11.
A revolution at GM headquarters will be needed to save this basket case.
First on the agenda is a powerplant layout which ensures five minute R&R
of
all common servicing components: alternator, fuel injection, starter,
water
pump, battery, ignition parts. On conventional transmission cars, I want
to see a "drop-in clutch plate". That's for a start. The chassis and
accessories need equal attention for servicing. A good standard to use is
Air Force aircraft servicing specs. My understanding is a jet engine can
be R & R'd in 45 minutes flat using a four man crew. On today's cars,
once a car is out of warranty, its not economically practical to replace
an
engine; that's how labor intensive it is.
Any decent engineer could write a book on GM cars and what absurdities
they
are. Up one side and down the other, they are monstrous from the word go.
Too late to save GM, I'm afraid.
If you think you can do so much better, make up a design for your 'perfect'
car and get someone to start producing it. GM is not going anywhere, so piss
off.
ooops you must work for GM, but the post makes a lot of good common |
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Jonathan
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Sat Nov 19, 2005 4:47 am Post subject:
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Oh, please - it's obvious just how much you don't know about modern
automotive design.
Plastic engine covers provide three basic functions:
Reduced noise
Restrict exposure to moving parts
Restrict exposure to hot parts
And they cost next to nothing. They do not get in the way of making any
repair, accessing any user servicable part or impede any user checks or
maintenance. If someone doesn't check their oil or brake fluid, then it's
not the fault of a plastic cover. And unless plastic really, really scares
you then it doesn't intimidate anyone from doing anything on their car they
wouldn't do without a cover, or increase the cost of maintenance. And the
last thing we need is more trivial government regulation like regulating
plastic engine covers. The next time you try to connect something as silly
as a plastic engine cover to the downward slump of GM, try looking under the
hood of a new car from any other manufacturer first. Your argument is
spurious at best.
Of course you can R&R an engine from a fighter in 45 minutes with a 4 man
crew. At $30M per plane I'm surprised it doesn't come with candy and a
stripper also, but at $25k for a car you get what you pay for.
The only good thing about your rants is even though they are not well
thought-out, they are at least on topic. However, I would strongly suggest
that you take your high blood pressure medication as the doctor instructed.
"Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message
news:7536ab01014ef3d47bb72f0d37d5a4eb@dizum.com...
| Quote: | Chairman and CEO Rick Waggoner, I want your job!! I can straighten out
your wretched concern.
Doesn't anybody at General Motors have any sense? Plastic engine covers
serve no purpose other than to make servicing more difficult and more
expensive. Services not done indirectly lead to reliability and safety
issues, because on out-of-warranty vehicles, the more expensive the
service, the less likely it is to be accomplished.
The Government needs to step in and make some design rules, since GM,
Ford,
and Chrysler refuse. They think these plastic covers somehow make the
machinery more "exotic," or more likely, more "intimidating" to
do-it-yourselfers, leading to higher dealership service department volume.
Well, its all backfired. You are almost in Chapter 11.
A revolution at GM headquarters will be needed to save this basket case.
First on the agenda is a powerplant layout which ensures five minute R&R
of
all common servicing components: alternator, fuel injection, starter,
water
pump, battery, ignition parts. On conventional transmission cars, I want
to see a "drop-in clutch plate". That's for a start. The chassis and
accessories need equal attention for servicing. A good standard to use is
Air Force aircraft servicing specs. My understanding is a jet engine can
be R & R'd in 45 minutes flat using a four man crew. On today's cars,
once a car is out of warranty, its not economically practical to replace
an
engine; that's how labor intensive it is.
Any decent engineer could write a book on GM cars and what absurdities
they
are. Up one side and down the other, they are monstrous from the word go.
Too late to save GM, I'm afraid.
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Al Bundy
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Sat Nov 19, 2005 5:02 am Post subject:
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Jake wrote:
| Quote: | On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 20:12:13 -0500, "80 Knight"
80_knightREMOVEME@rogers.com> wrote:
"Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message
news:7536ab01014ef3d47bb72f0d37d5a4eb@dizum.com...
Chairman and CEO Rick Waggoner, I want your job!! I can straighten out
your wretched concern.
Doesn't anybody at General Motors have any sense? Plastic engine covers
serve no purpose other than to make servicing more difficult and more
expensive. Services not done indirectly lead to reliability and safety
issues, because on out-of-warranty vehicles, the more expensive the
service, the less likely it is to be accomplished.
The Government needs to step in and make some design rules, since GM,
Ford,
and Chrysler refuse. They think these plastic covers somehow make the
machinery more "exotic," or more likely, more "intimidating" to
do-it-yourselfers, leading to higher dealership service department volume.
Well, its all backfired. You are almost in Chapter 11.
A revolution at GM headquarters will be needed to save this basket case.
First on the agenda is a powerplant layout which ensures five minute R&R
of
all common servicing components: alternator, fuel injection, starter,
water
pump, battery, ignition parts. On conventional transmission cars, I want
to see a "drop-in clutch plate". That's for a start. The chassis and
accessories need equal attention for servicing. A good standard to use is
Air Force aircraft servicing specs. My understanding is a jet engine can
be R & R'd in 45 minutes flat using a four man crew. On today's cars,
once a car is out of warranty, its not economically practical to replace
an
engine; that's how labor intensive it is.
Any decent engineer could write a book on GM cars and what absurdities
they
are. Up one side and down the other, they are monstrous from the word go.
Too late to save GM, I'm afraid.
If you think you can do so much better, make up a design for your 'perfect'
car and get someone to start producing it. GM is not going anywhere, so piss
off.
ooops you must work for GM, but the post makes a lot of good common
sense..
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Yes, and anybody that has worked much on vehicles has wondered about
the lack of forethought to repairs as well at times. The fact is they
plan on about 100K miles or so and don't worry about long term repairs
needed beyond warranty. I'd love to see something like a drop in clutch
plate and I can envision a couple ways it might work. Such things could
be done, but they are of little interest to carmakers. If everything
were the way I like, they wouldn't sell as many new cars and what would
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80 Knight
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Sat Nov 19, 2005 5:43 am Post subject:
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"Jake" <jak2@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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| Quote: | On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 20:12:13 -0500, "80 Knight"
80_knightREMOVEME@rogers.com> wrote:
"Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message
news:7536ab01014ef3d47bb72f0d37d5a4eb@dizum.com...
Chairman and CEO Rick Waggoner, I want your job!! I can straighten out
your wretched concern.
Doesn't anybody at General Motors have any sense? Plastic engine covers
serve no purpose other than to make servicing more difficult and more
expensive. Services not done indirectly lead to reliability and safety
issues, because on out-of-warranty vehicles, the more expensive the
service, the less likely it is to be accomplished.
The Government needs to step in and make some design rules, since GM,
Ford,
and Chrysler refuse. They think these plastic covers somehow make the
machinery more "exotic," or more likely, more "intimidating" to
do-it-yourselfers, leading to higher dealership service department
volume.
Well, its all backfired. You are almost in Chapter 11.
A revolution at GM headquarters will be needed to save this basket case.
First on the agenda is a powerplant layout which ensures five minute R&R
of
all common servicing components: alternator, fuel injection, starter,
water
pump, battery, ignition parts. On conventional transmission cars, I
want
to see a "drop-in clutch plate". That's for a start. The chassis and
accessories need equal attention for servicing. A good standard to use
is
Air Force aircraft servicing specs. My understanding is a jet engine
can
be R & R'd in 45 minutes flat using a four man crew. On today's cars,
once a car is out of warranty, its not economically practical to replace
an
engine; that's how labor intensive it is.
Any decent engineer could write a book on GM cars and what absurdities
they
are. Up one side and down the other, they are monstrous from the word
go.
Too late to save GM, I'm afraid.
If you think you can do so much better, make up a design for your
'perfect'
car and get someone to start producing it. GM is not going anywhere, so
piss
off.
ooops you must work for GM, but the post makes a lot of good common
sense..
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Nope, I do not. But, I do live in Oshawa Ontario. You know the place. It has
the NUMBER ONE car plant in North and South America. So, you will excuse me
if I get a little pissed when idiots like this guy come here and bitch the
way he did. |
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ajtessier
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How about them starting with something simple - like using all metric or all
SAE fasteners. When I work on my wife's Honda, I know what set of wrenches
I'll need when I crawl under the car.
Al
"Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message
news:7536ab01014ef3d47bb72f0d37d5a4eb@dizum.com...
| Quote: | Chairman and CEO Rick Waggoner, I want your job!! I can straighten out
your wretched concern.
Doesn't anybody at General Motors have any sense? Plastic engine covers
serve no purpose other than to make servicing more difficult and more
expensive. Services not done indirectly lead to reliability and safety
issues, because on out-of-warranty vehicles, the more expensive the
service, the less likely it is to be accomplished.
The Government needs to step in and make some design rules, since GM,
Ford,
and Chrysler refuse. They think these plastic covers somehow make the
machinery more "exotic," or more likely, more "intimidating" to
do-it-yourselfers, leading to higher dealership service department volume.
Well, its all backfired. You are almost in Chapter 11.
A revolution at GM headquarters will be needed to save this basket case.
First on the agenda is a powerplant layout which ensures five minute R&R
of
all common servicing components: alternator, fuel injection, starter,
water
pump, battery, ignition parts. On conventional transmission cars, I want
to see a "drop-in clutch plate". That's for a start. The chassis and
accessories need equal attention for servicing. A good standard to use is
Air Force aircraft servicing specs. My understanding is a jet engine can
be R & R'd in 45 minutes flat using a four man crew. On today's cars,
once a car is out of warranty, its not economically practical to replace
an
engine; that's how labor intensive it is.
Any decent engineer could write a book on GM cars and what absurdities
they
are. Up one side and down the other, they are monstrous from the word go.
Too late to save GM, I'm afraid.
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Eugene Nine
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Sun Nov 20, 2005 8:31 am Post subject:
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ajtessier wrote:
| Quote: | How about them starting with something simple - like using all metric or
all SAE fasteners. When I work on my wife's Honda, I know what set of
wrenches I'll need when I crawl under the car.
Al
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Ted Mittelstaedt
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"Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message
news:7536ab01014ef3d47bb72f0d37d5a4eb@dizum.com...
| Quote: | Chairman and CEO Rick Waggoner, I want your job!! I can straighten out
your wretched concern.
Doesn't anybody at General Motors have any sense? Plastic engine covers
serve no purpose other than to make servicing more difficult and more
expensive.
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That depends on how the cover is attached.
Services not done indirectly lead to reliability and safety
| Quote: | issues, because on out-of-warranty vehicles, the more expensive the
service, the less likely it is to be accomplished.
The Government needs to step in and make some design rules, since GM,
Ford,
and Chrysler refuse. They think these plastic covers somehow make the
machinery more "exotic," or more likely, more "intimidating" to
do-it-yourselfers, leading to higher dealership service department volume.
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anyone intimidated by a plastic engine cover shouldn't be working on
their own car.
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GRL
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Sun Nov 20, 2005 9:15 pm Post subject:
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Nice complaints. Problem is that they apply to virtually all the car
companies and are most certainly NOT the reason for the Big Three's
problems.
Wrong tree, mate.
"Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message
news:7536ab01014ef3d47bb72f0d37d5a4eb@dizum.com...
| Quote: | Chairman and CEO Rick Waggoner, I want your job!! I can straighten out
your wretched concern.
Doesn't anybody at General Motors have any sense? Plastic engine covers
serve no purpose other than to make servicing more difficult and more
expensive. Services not done indirectly lead to reliability and safety
issues, because on out-of-warranty vehicles, the more expensive the
service, the less likely it is to be accomplished.
The Government needs to step in and make some design rules, since GM,
Ford,
and Chrysler refuse. They think these plastic covers somehow make the
machinery more "exotic," or more likely, more "intimidating" to
do-it-yourselfers, leading to higher dealership service department volume.
Well, its all backfired. You are almost in Chapter 11.
A revolution at GM headquarters will be needed to save this basket case.
First on the agenda is a powerplant layout which ensures five minute R&R
of
all common servicing components: alternator, fuel injection, starter,
water
pump, battery, ignition parts. On conventional transmission cars, I want
to see a "drop-in clutch plate". That's for a start. The chassis and
accessories need equal attention for servicing. A good standard to use is
Air Force aircraft servicing specs. My understanding is a jet engine can
be R & R'd in 45 minutes flat using a four man crew. On today's cars,
once a car is out of warranty, its not economically practical to replace
an
engine; that's how labor intensive it is.
Any decent engineer could write a book on GM cars and what absurdities
they
are. Up one side and down the other, they are monstrous from the word go.
Too late to save GM, I'm afraid.
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