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Raybender
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 6:04 am    Post subject: I'll never sell Reply with quote

Latest issue of Roundel has several almost NEW bmw's for sale. I just
don't get this. Why, except for special circumstances (lost job etc.or
an outright nightmare lemon) would anyone sell one of these cars,
especially when they just purchased in the last two months, or so, or
even after 100K miles, assuming no unusual problems.

I've got over 122K miles on my 97 328/5sp manual, and I'll never sell
this car. It has nothing wrong with it, so I know I just have to keep
up with maintenance, and possible random failures of little stuff, and
I'm good for 2-300K miles. It drives better than new (because I now
know how to drive it better, and also had to put on new front struts),
but more than that, it is just a perfect driver's car. I can drive 600
miles straight, cruising CA and Nevada, throttle steering through high
speed sweepers in the mountains, and basically 'forgetting' to even turn
on the radio, it's so enjoyable just driving. If I do turn it on,
little features like the autostore, where it automatically finds the
local stations are just too neat. I use the weather band too, when it
looks stormy up ahead.

Am I just lucky that I've had no significant problems with my car?
Maybe I'm too simple minded - huh? Every time I get in the car it just
seems like an old friend - engine purrs like a little kitten at 80+ mph,
transmission glides into all the gears, gas mileage is great, ride is so
smooth passengers fall asleep, and I could just cruise the freeways all
day and all night.

Anyone else 'lost it' like I have?

Frank

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KJ
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 6:19 am    Post subject: Re: I'll never sell Reply with quote

Raybender wrote:
Quote:
Latest issue of Roundel has several almost NEW bmw's for sale. I just
don't get this. Why, except for special circumstances (lost job etc.or
an outright nightmare lemon) would anyone sell one of these cars,
especially when they just purchased in the last two months, or so, or
even after 100K miles, assuming no unusual problems.

I've got over 122K miles on my 97 328/5sp manual, and I'll never sell
this car. It has nothing wrong with it, so I know I just have to keep
up with maintenance, and possible random failures of little stuff, and
I'm good for 2-300K miles. It drives better than new (because I now
know how to drive it better, and also had to put on new front struts),
but more than that, it is just a perfect driver's car. I can drive 600
miles straight, cruising CA and Nevada, throttle steering through high
speed sweepers in the mountains, and basically 'forgetting' to even turn
on the radio, it's so enjoyable just driving. If I do turn it on,
little features like the autostore, where it automatically finds the
local stations are just too neat. I use the weather band too, when it
looks stormy up ahead.

Am I just lucky that I've had no significant problems with my car?
Maybe I'm too simple minded - huh? Every time I get in the car it just
seems like an old friend - engine purrs like a little kitten at 80+ mph,
transmission glides into all the gears, gas mileage is great, ride is so
smooth passengers fall asleep, and I could just cruise the freeways all
day and all night.

Anyone else 'lost it' like I have?

Frank

Have you ever seen how many shoes a woman has in her closet?
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Jeff Strickland
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 6:56 am    Post subject: Re: I'll never sell Reply with quote

"Raybender" <raybender@NOSPAMsbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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Quote:
Latest issue of Roundel has several almost NEW bmw's for sale. I just
don't get this. Why, except for special circumstances (lost job etc.or
an outright nightmare lemon) would anyone sell one of these cars,
especially when they just purchased in the last two months, or so, or
even after 100K miles, assuming no unusual problems.


Some people have more money than sense, and they buy a car to drive for two
years, then buy another car. You and I buy our car and drive it until it
simply can't gop anymore, but therer is a huge population out there that
never pays a repair bill because they sell the car instead of buy new tires.




Quote:
I've got over 122K miles on my 97 328/5sp manual, and I'll never sell
this car. It has nothing wrong with it, so I know I just have to keep
up with maintenance, and possible random failures of little stuff, and
I'm good for 2-300K miles.

I had 216k on my '94 325 when it got totalled.




It drives better than new (because I now
Quote:
know how to drive it better, and also had to put on new front struts),
but more than that, it is just a perfect driver's car. I can drive 600
miles straight, cruising CA and Nevada, throttle steering through high
speed sweepers in the mountains, and basically 'forgetting' to even turn
on the radio, it's so enjoyable just driving. If I do turn it on,
little features like the autostore, where it automatically finds the
local stations are just too neat. I use the weather band too, when it
looks stormy up ahead.


You need to look at XM or Sirius. Now that's a radio experience you'll love!

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Dean Dark
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 7:20 am    Post subject: Re: I'll never sell Reply with quote

On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 16:56:20 -0800, "Jeff Strickland"
<crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote:

Quote:
Some people have more money than sense, and they buy a car to drive for two
years, then buy another car. You and I buy our car and drive it until it
simply can't gop anymore, but therer is a huge population out there that
never pays a repair bill because they sell the car instead of buy new tires.

And somewhere in the middle are people like me, who are quite happy
with the car they have now, but who don't plan on keeping it
"forever."

Personally, I think the best financial deal is to buy a 3 year old car
off a lease with about $30K miles on, then sell it two years or so
later. Rinse, lather, repeat.
--
Dan.
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Dori A Schmetterling
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 3:20 pm    Post subject: Re: I'll never sell Reply with quote

It depends on the country (and tax rules, interest rates, depreciation etc)
but there are circumstances where it makes sense under a leasing model to
renew cars at quite frequent intervals, e.g. 2 years.

One of my acqaintances did just just. Swapped her 325 convertible for a 325
convertible...

DAS

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Quote:
Some people have more money than sense, and they buy a car to drive for
two years, then buy another car. You and I buy our car and drive it until
it simply can't gop anymore, but therer is a huge population out there
that never pays a repair bill because they sell the car instead of buy new
tires.
[...]
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 3:52 pm    Post subject: Re: I'll never sell Reply with quote

Raybender wrote:
Quote:
Latest issue of Roundel has several almost NEW bmw's for sale. I just
don't get this. Why, except for special circumstances (lost job etc.or
an outright nightmare lemon) would anyone sell one of these cars,
especially when they just purchased in the last two months, or so, or
even after 100K miles, assuming no unusual problems.



BMW employees who buy at a discount then sell after 6 months.
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admin
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 9:01 pm    Post subject: Re: I'll never sell Reply with quote

adder1969@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Quote:
Raybender wrote:

BMW employees who buy at a discount then sell after 6 months.

Unlikely - BMW gives the executives cars for 6 months, then sells them
at auction. A few dealers are buyers of the pre-owned executive cars.

I know - I've bought 3 of them so far from the dealer. Wonderful cars..
all the bugs are gotten out by the BMW exec.
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Malt_Hound
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 10:19 pm    Post subject: Re: I'll never sell Reply with quote

Dean Dark wrote:
Quote:
On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 16:56:20 -0800, "Jeff Strickland"
crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote:


Some people have more money than sense, and they buy a car to drive for two
years, then buy another car. You and I buy our car and drive it until it
simply can't gop anymore, but therer is a huge population out there that
never pays a repair bill because they sell the car instead of buy new tires.


And somewhere in the middle are people like me, who are quite happy
with the car they have now, but who don't plan on keeping it
"forever."

Personally, I think the best financial deal is to buy a 3 year old car
off a lease with about $30K miles on, then sell it two years or so
later. Rinse, lather, repeat.

No way... by the time I get my cars the way I want them (well serviced
and all the little things fixed) I'll be damned if I'm going to let it
go for dealer trade-in value.

Put it this way... anytime you sell and buy a new car, you will lose
money. The only thing in question is how much you will lose...

--
-Fred W
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Malt_Hound
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 10:44 pm    Post subject: Re: I'll never sell Reply with quote

Dori A Schmetterling wrote:
Quote:
It depends on the country (and tax rules, interest rates, depreciation etc)
but there are circumstances where it makes sense under a leasing model to
renew cars at quite frequent intervals, e.g. 2 years.

No, I'm sorry. It never makes sense to do that. As compared to buying
the same thing over the same period perhaps it makes better sense to
lease, but you are absolutely pouring money down the drain.


--
-Fred W
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Malt_Hound
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 10:46 pm    Post subject: Re: I'll never sell Reply with quote

adder1969@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Quote:
Raybender wrote:

Latest issue of Roundel has several almost NEW bmw's for sale. I just
don't get this. Why, except for special circumstances (lost job etc.or
an outright nightmare lemon) would anyone sell one of these cars,
especially when they just purchased in the last two months, or so, or
even after 100K miles, assuming no unusual problems.




BMW employees who buy at a discount then sell after 6 months.


Yeah, I'll bet the BMW employee discount is just as big as GM, Ford and
Chrysler's. It's so big they'll give it to any jamoke that walks in off
the street.

--
-Fred W
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Raybender
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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 12:50 am    Post subject: Re: I'll never sell Reply with quote

Jeff Strickland wrote:

Quote:
"Raybender" <raybender@NOSPAMsbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:4379261A.AA5EC339@NOSPAMsbcglobal.net...
Latest issue of Roundel has several almost NEW bmw's for sale. I just
don't get this. Why, except for special circumstances (lost job etc.or
an outright nightmare lemon) would anyone sell one of these cars,
especially when they just purchased in the last two months, or so, or
even after 100K miles, assuming no unusual problems.


Some people have more money than sense, and they buy a car to drive for two
years, then buy another car. You and I buy our car and drive it until it
simply can't gop anymore, but therer is a huge population out there that
never pays a repair bill because they sell the car instead of buy new tires.

He he... I like that. Used to tease a best friend once that he bought a new car
because his battery went dead.

Besides the money for a new car, you have to break it in. To me that's kind of
a pain. I don't feel comfortable until about 20K miles or so, and engine
'feels' good when reving, and (hopefully) doesn't use any oil. Then I've got a
keeper. Even the tires wear perfectly even on my current car - sure that's a
big part of the fantastic handling. I've never even had an alignment since the
car was new - afraid they'll mess it up.

Quote:


I've got over 122K miles on my 97 328/5sp manual, and I'll never sell
this car. It has nothing wrong with it, so I know I just have to keep
up with maintenance, and possible random failures of little stuff, and
I'm good for 2-300K miles.

I had 216k on my '94 325 when it got totalled.

Geez... Sorry. This is now my greatest fear for my car - that someone will hit
me. I really drive conservatively because of this whenever I'm in traffic -
just find a hole, and try to ride with it. Out in the CA or Nev desert when I'm
all alone, though, is when I open 'er up and have some fun.

Quote:


It drives better than new (because I now
know how to drive it better, and also had to put on new front struts),
but more than that, it is just a perfect driver's car. I can drive 600
miles straight, cruising CA and Nevada, throttle steering through high
speed sweepers in the mountains, and basically 'forgetting' to even turn
on the radio, it's so enjoyable just driving. If I do turn it on,
little features like the autostore, where it automatically finds the
local stations are just too neat. I use the weather band too, when it
looks stormy up ahead.


You need to look at XM or Sirius. Now that's a radio experience you'll love!

Been thinking about this. But keep wondering if I'd listen enough to justify
the cost

Frank
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Raybender
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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 12:54 am    Post subject: Re: I'll never sell Reply with quote

Dean Dark wrote:

Quote:
On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 16:56:20 -0800, "Jeff Strickland"
crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote:

Some people have more money than sense, and they buy a car to drive for two
years, then buy another car. You and I buy our car and drive it until it
simply can't gop anymore, but therer is a huge population out there that
never pays a repair bill because they sell the car instead of buy new tires.

And somewhere in the middle are people like me, who are quite happy
with the car they have now, but who don't plan on keeping it
"forever."

Personally, I think the best financial deal is to buy a 3 year old car
off a lease with about $30K miles on, then sell it two years or so
later. Rinse, lather, repeat.
--
Dan.

You're probably right. As you might surmise from my original post, I get too
attached to my cars to be able to think in financial terms.

Frank
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Raybender
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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 1:04 am    Post subject: Re: I'll never sell Reply with quote

Malt_Hound, > wrote:

Quote:
Dean Dark wrote:
On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 16:56:20 -0800, "Jeff Strickland"
crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote:


Some people have more money than sense, and they buy a car to drive for two
years, then buy another car. You and I buy our car and drive it until it
simply can't gop anymore, but therer is a huge population out there that
never pays a repair bill because they sell the car instead of buy new tires.


And somewhere in the middle are people like me, who are quite happy
with the car they have now, but who don't plan on keeping it
"forever."

Personally, I think the best financial deal is to buy a 3 year old car
off a lease with about $30K miles on, then sell it two years or so
later. Rinse, lather, repeat.

No way... by the time I get my cars the way I want them (well serviced
and all the little things fixed) I'll be damned if I'm going to let it
go for dealer trade-in value.

That's where I am now with my current car. Market value is probably $10K - to me,
it could not be replaced for less than $40K, and I don't think I'd like all the
electronics on anything new - definitely not throttle-by-wire, for example.

Quote:


Put it this way... anytime you sell and buy a new car, you will lose
money. The only thing in question is how much you will lose...

--
-Fred W
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joe_tide
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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 1:44 am    Post subject: Re: I'll never sell Reply with quote

I do too, but I was at my dealers today and they have an '04 M3 sitting
there that was just traded. Now *that* was tempting. Silver with silver
leather. I didn't even ask the price. I just got of of there as soon as I
could. ;-)


"Raybender" <raybender@NOSPAMsbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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Quote:
Dean Dark wrote:

On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 16:56:20 -0800, "Jeff Strickland"
crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote:

Some people have more money than sense, and they buy a car to drive for
two
years, then buy another car. You and I buy our car and drive it until it
simply can't gop anymore, but therer is a huge population out there that
never pays a repair bill because they sell the car instead of buy new
tires.

And somewhere in the middle are people like me, who are quite happy
with the car they have now, but who don't plan on keeping it
"forever."

Personally, I think the best financial deal is to buy a 3 year old car
off a lease with about $30K miles on, then sell it two years or so
later. Rinse, lather, repeat.
--
Dan.

You're probably right. As you might surmise from my original post, I get
too
attached to my cars to be able to think in financial terms.

Frank
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ie
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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 9:13 am    Post subject: Re: I'll never sell Reply with quote

Glad you love your '97 328--keep lovin' it! I'll be you don't talk on the
phone, drink coffee and drive at the same time--you sound like a serious
driver ;-)

Yeah, some people do have to have "new stuff" all the time, but I'm with
you. We sold our '95 325 with 120k on it only because we had two aging
parents to haul around with walkers/wheelchairs and couldn't quite get the
trunk closed with all the mobility devices in it. We did European delivery
on a 325 wagon (had to order it anyway--5 speed) and sold the sedan when the
wagon arrived. Some kid out east got an awesome 325 that was in great
shape. I hope he appreciated it.

Euro delivery was great for us 'cause we were going to visit the Mum-in-Law
in UK that summer anyway--fit right into our travel plans. If you buy
new--look into it--way cool experience.

We are pretty pumped about the development of hybrids and the improvements
in mileage but it's going to be a real dilemma trying to decide which of our
cars we give up for the next generation of vehicle (a hybrid, not an suv).
Which one will go--the '87 924S or the 2002 325 wagon? Only time will tell.
It will be awhile.

Cheers!
ie

PS. Okay, money no object, I might give our wagon up for a 5 series wagon
if it were "tweaked". It would have to be money no object then 'cause the
insurance premiums would kill me. ;-)


"Malt_Hound" <""Malt_Hound\"@*spam-me not*yahoo.com"> wrote in message
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adder1969@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Raybender wrote:

Latest issue of Roundel has several almost NEW bmw's for sale. I just
don't get this. Why, except for special circumstances (lost job etc.or
an outright nightmare lemon) would anyone sell one of these cars,
especially when they just purchased in the last two months, or so, or
even after 100K miles, assuming no unusual problems.




BMW employees who buy at a discount then sell after 6 months.


Yeah, I'll bet the BMW employee discount is just as big as GM, Ford and
Chrysler's. It's so big they'll give it to any jamoke that walks in off
the street.

--
-Fred W
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