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Huw
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 3:33 pm Post subject:
Re: Low oil on a Sunday. |
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"Dori A Schmetterling" <ng@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Oil degradation means a reduction in lubrication capability. Synthetics
last longer, in short.
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Some do and some don't
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Otherwise, what is the point of a synthetic?
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You tell me.
The only thing that is really important is that any oil meets or exceeds the
STANDARD required by the manufacturer for an application which has a
specified servicing regime.
You probably know that modern BMW engines fitted to BMW cars are required to
use oil meeting certain specific BMW standards. What you may not know is
that those same engines running the same service schedule [flexible and
generally around 15000 miles] in non BMW applications can run on any oil
meeting ACEA A3 for petrol or A3 and B3 for diesel and from 5w/30 to 10w/40
viscosity above -10C ambient. The interesting thing is that Mobil1 in some
of those viscosity grades will not meet those standards while, what are
considered to be, lesser oils will do.
So you see it is not as simple as saying synthetic lasts longer. The base
oil type is often not the limiting factor, or at least it is not that
simple.
Huw
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Pete
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:10 pm Post subject:
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"Dori A Schmetterling" wrote
| Quote: | Otherwise, what is the point of a synthetic?
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Synthetic is also able to withstand higher temperatures and is more
resistant to coking at these temperatures, although that may be more
relevant to turbocharged engines.
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Huw
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 11:03 pm Post subject:
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"Pete" <escape2music@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Dori A Schmetterling" wrote
Otherwise, what is the point of a synthetic?
Synthetic is also able to withstand higher temperatures and is more
resistant to coking at these temperatures, although that may be more
relevant to turbocharged engines.
Pete
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Mineral oil is perfectly capable of withstanding Turbo temperatures. Oils
meeting MB228.3 and ACEA E3 long drain specification for the heaviest duty
use at extended drain intervals in highly stressed turbocharged engines are
predominantly mineral based.
Yes there is a much higher specification again for use up to 100,000 or more
miles with by-pass filtration which can only be met using at least a
semi-synthetic or fully synthetic base oil but this is a very extreme
specification at the cutting edge of extreme duty lubrication.
Again I have to stress that the performance 'standard' met by an oil is what
is important, not the base oil. 'Synthetic' as a buzz word captures the
imagination and is simple to get across if one is marketing to achieve a
premium price in a crowded market.
Huw
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 1:18 am Post subject:
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On Sun, 6 Nov 2005 20:11:01 -0800, "Floyd Rogers"
<fbloogyudsr@hotmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | sweigelburger@yahoo.co.uk> wrote
"Mike G" <metier@lycos.co.uk> wrote:
I had a bit of luck. There was a Halfords superstore open 2 miles away
and I got a litre of Mobil 1 for £11-99p. Thanks all the same for your
advice.
Sad. Mobil 1 at Costco in the US is about $4.5 per quart. About 1/3 that
price...
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Our gas prices work out at the same ratio too compared to the US:-(
Sweig |
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 1:18 am Post subject:
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On Sun, 6 Nov 2005 08:45:52 -0800, "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com>
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| Quote: | What in the world makes you think yo can not get Mobile 1 on Sunday?
Mobile 1 is available at pretty much ANY auto parts store. In the States, we
can get it from a wide variety of big-box retail stores, Target, WalMart,
K-Mart, etc. Mobile 1 is nothing special, beyond its superior lubricating
abilities.
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You live in the States Jeff. I live in darkest Suffolk in the UK.
Swieg |
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 1:18 am Post subject:
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On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 10:19:02 -0000, "Dori A Schmetterling"
<ng@nospam.co.uk> wrote:
| Quote: | I don't get this. In the UK Mobil 1 is hardly scarce, nor is any fully
synthetic oil.
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In my town it is difficult to find anywhere open on a Sunday:-(
Sweig |
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Dori A Schmetterling
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:26 am Post subject:
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A-HA!
No motorway for milesandmiles...
DAS
For direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling
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Sat Nov 12, 2005 1:42 am Post subject:
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On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 23:26:13 -0000, "Dori A Schmetterling"
<ng@nospam.co.uk> wrote:
| Quote: | A-HA!
No motorway for milesandmiles...
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It must sound crazy but there are no motorways at all in Suffolk even
though we have one of the major sea ports in the country.
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Jeff Strickland
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Sat Nov 12, 2005 5:17 am Post subject:
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<sweigelburger@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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| Quote: | On Sun, 6 Nov 2005 08:45:52 -0800, "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com
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What in the world makes you think yo can not get Mobile 1 on Sunday?
Mobile 1 is available at pretty much ANY auto parts store. In the States,
we
can get it from a wide variety of big-box retail stores, Target, WalMart,
K-Mart, etc. Mobile 1 is nothing special, beyond its superior lubricating
abilities.
You live in the States Jeff. I live in darkest Suffolk in the UK.
Swieg
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True. We have lots of faults over here, but finding motor oil on Sunday
isn't one of them. Go to the corner auto parts store and pick out a few
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