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mark@caddproductivity.com
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 6:13 am    Post subject: Tires ... Reply with quote

Greetings NG,

Haven't posted here for ages. Last I did this NG seemed unusually well
populated with the helpful and knowledgeable.

Regarding my ageless and revered 1991 Toyota Cressida:

I'm currently running 4 BF Goodrich 195/65/15 All Seasons which have a
little meat left but not enough for winter here in Ontario. I'm tempted
to get 2 economy snow tires for the back and 2 Mich' Harmony for the
front. The idea is in spring I can take the 2 snows off the rear, move
the new Michelins to the rear and put the 2 best BF Goodrich's back on
the front. Does this make good driving sense? I think it makes good
economic sense at least.

I suspect most tire tech's would recommend 4 of the same. Is this really
true for a car which doesn't get driven very fast or often. Or is this a
common strategy to sell more tires?

Mark

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Hachiroku
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 9:16 am    Post subject: Re: Tires ... Reply with quote

On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 19:13:27 -0500, mark@caddproductivity.com wrote:

Quote:
Greetings NG,

Haven't posted here for ages. Last I did this NG seemed unusually well
populated with the helpful and knowledgeable.

Regarding my ageless and revered 1991 Toyota Cressida:

I'm currently running 4 BF Goodrich 195/65/15 All Seasons which have a
little meat left but not enough for winter here in Ontario. I'm tempted
to get 2 economy snow tires for the back and 2 Mich' Harmony for the
front. The idea is in spring I can take the 2 snows off the rear, move
the new Michelins to the rear and put the 2 best BF Goodrich's back on
the front. Does this make good driving sense? I think it makes good
economic sense at least.

A lot of people will tell you it does, but when I was in Driver's Ed, the
teacher said, Always put your best tires on the rear. Why? You can't steer
the rear!

Quote:

I suspect most tire tech's would recommend 4 of the same. Is this really
true for a car which doesn't get driven very fast or often. Or is this a
common strategy to sell more tires?

Mark
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ravelation
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 11:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Tires ... Reply with quote

Trueno@ae86.GTS (Hachiroku) wrote:

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A lot of people will tell you it does, but
when I was in Driver's Ed, the teacher
said, Always put your best tires on the
rear. Why? You can't steer the rear!

Yup. America's Tire Store recommends the exact same thing. When they
told me it was best to mount the new tires on back, I questioned it and
that's what they said. You need the added stability in the rear to keep
the car's rear from skidding out, since you can't control it as much as
the front.

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Hachiroku
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 11:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Tires ... Reply with quote

On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 09:32:36 -0800, ravelation wrote:

Quote:

Trueno@ae86.GTS (Hachiroku) wrote:

A lot of people will tell you it does, but
when I was in Driver's Ed, the teacher
said, Always put your best tires on the
rear. Why? You can't steer the rear!

Yup. America's Tire Store recommends the exact same thing. When they
told me it was best to mount the new tires on back, I questioned it and
that's what they said. You need the added stability in the rear to keep
the car's rear from skidding out, since you can't control it as much as
the front.

'bout time you showed up somewhere!~ Where the heck ya been?
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Ray O
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:17 am    Post subject: Re: Tires ... Reply with quote

<mark@caddproductivity.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Greetings NG,

Haven't posted here for ages. Last I did this NG seemed unusually well
populated with the helpful and knowledgeable.

Regarding my ageless and revered 1991 Toyota Cressida:

I'm currently running 4 BF Goodrich 195/65/15 All Seasons which have a
little meat left but not enough for winter here in Ontario. I'm tempted to
get 2 economy snow tires for the back and 2 Mich' Harmony for the front.
The idea is in spring I can take the 2 snows off the rear, move the new
Michelins to the rear and put the 2 best BF Goodrich's back on the front.
Does this make good driving sense? I think it makes good economic sense at
least.


Your idea makes sens if there is at least 2/32" tread depth remaining on the
BF Goodrich tires. If not, then you need to replace all the tires.

Since the Cressida is a rear wheel drive car and is not known for stellar
traction in the snow, you should put your best tires on the rear.

Quote:
I suspect most tire tech's would recommend 4 of the same. Is this really
true for a car which doesn't get driven very fast or often. Or is this a
common strategy to sell more tires?

Mark

Most techs recommend 4 tires at a time because if the tires have been taken
care of and rotated properly, all 4 tend to wear out at the same time.
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Ray O
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ll
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:18 am    Post subject: Re: Tires .. Reply with quote

"mark@caddproductivity.com" wrote:
Quote:
Haven't posted here for ages. Last I did this NG seemed unusually
well populated with the helpful and knowledgeable.

How things have changed! But if you want to talk about politics,
this is the place.

The local tire shop is recommending Goodyear Assurance ComforTreds
for the van. Anyone out there have those? Consumer Reports rated
the Goodyear Assurance TripleTreds number one and the ComforTred in
the middle of the pack. But when you look at the details,
they rated the CT higher on snow and ice and the TT higher
on noise and ride. These are opposite what Goodyear markets
them as, and opposite the customer reviews on tirerack.
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ravelation
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Tires ... Reply with quote

Trueno@ae86.GTS (Hachiroku) wrote:

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ravelation wrote:

'bout time you showed up somewhere!~
Where the heck ya been?

I've been "lurking"...I don't read all of the threads here, but every
once in a while I feel like I can contribute something to the
discussion. I guess my personal commitment to quit feeding the you know
whos has kept me from having a presence.

You have no idea how difficult it's been to not hit that send key a few
times. The fruit was so ripe for the pickin' if'n you get what I mean!
;)
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ravelation
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Tires .. Reply with quote

lkslittle@REMOVEcomcastTHIS.net (ll) wrote:

The local tire shop is recommending
Quote:
Goodyear Assurance ComforTreds for
the van.   Anyone out there have those?

My son's Grand Prix has these. Nice, solid tire. They seem to be wearing
at a decent rate and provide a good, quiet ride.
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ma_twain
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 4:46 am    Post subject: Re: Tires ... Reply with quote

mark@caddproductivity.com wrote:

Quote:
Greetings NG,

Haven't posted here for ages. Last I did this NG seemed unusually well
populated with the helpful and knowledgeable.

Regarding my ageless and revered 1991 Toyota Cressida:

I'm currently running 4 BF Goodrich 195/65/15 All Seasons which have a
little meat left but not enough for winter here in Ontario. I'm tempted
to get 2 economy snow tires for the back and 2 Mich' Harmony for the
front. The idea is in spring I can take the 2 snows off the rear, move
the new Michelins to the rear and put the 2 best BF Goodrich's back on
the front. Does this make good driving sense? I think it makes good
economic sense at least.

I suspect most tire tech's would recommend 4 of the same. Is this really
true for a car which doesn't get driven very fast or often. Or is this a
common strategy to sell more tires?

Mark
You might not be able to do this with the Cressida, but I am a firm believer in


testing theories. The ideal sitation would be to borrow tires and try
the combination (economy snows on back and 3 Harmonies on front) on snow
and ice cover empty parking lot. I suspect you will end up with four
matching tires on all corners. This is what tirerack.com does to test
tires. Go to their website and read up on their winter tires and
testing. There will be someone who says it is safe to drive with
mismatched tires, but they forget to add "if you drive slow enough".
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 6:10 am    Post subject: Re: Tires ... Reply with quote

Nice article on why new tires should go to the back of the class....

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=52
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mark@caddproductivity.com
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 3:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Tires ... Reply with quote

A belated thanks to all who replied. Following the links advice given
I've managed to educate myself a wee bit. We're getting our first real
snowfall here in Toronto this morning. I'll be heading out this morning
to line up with all the other procrastinators to get some snow tires
shortly.

Mark

BTW, If you're in the market for clever AutoCAD/Database add-on
software: http://www.caddproductivity.com/home.htm



mark@caddproductivity.com wrote:
Quote:
Greetings NG,

Haven't posted here for ages. Last I did this NG seemed unusually well
populated with the helpful and knowledgeable.

Regarding my ageless and revered 1991 Toyota Cressida:

I'm currently running 4 BF Goodrich 195/65/15 All Seasons which have a
little meat left but not enough for winter here in Ontario. I'm tempted
to get 2 economy snow tires for the back and 2 Mich' Harmony for the
front. The idea is in spring I can take the 2 snows off the rear, move
the new Michelins to the rear and put the 2 best BF Goodrich's back on
the front. Does this make good driving sense? I think it makes good
economic sense at least.

I suspect most tire tech's would recommend 4 of the same. Is this really
true for a car which doesn't get driven very fast or often. Or is this a
common strategy to sell more tires?

Mark
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Sharx35
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 5:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Tires ... Reply with quote

<mark@caddproductivity.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
A belated thanks to all who replied. Following the links advice given I've
managed to educate myself a wee bit. We're getting our first real snowfall
here in Toronto this morning. I'll be heading out this morning to line up
with all the other procrastinators to get some snow tires shortly.

Mark

BTW, If you're in the market for clever AutoCAD/Database add-on software:
http://www.caddproductivity.com/home.htm



mark@caddproductivity.com wrote:
Greetings NG,

Haven't posted here for ages. Last I did this NG seemed unusually well
populated with the helpful and knowledgeable.

Regarding my ageless and revered 1991 Toyota Cressida:

I'm currently running 4 BF Goodrich 195/65/15 All Seasons which have a
little meat left but not enough for winter here in Ontario. I'm tempted
to get 2 economy snow tires for the back and 2 Mich' Harmony for the
front. The idea is in spring I can take the 2 snows off the rear, move
the new Michelins to the rear and put the 2 best BF Goodrich's back on
the front. Does this make good driving sense? I think it makes good
economic sense at least.

I suspect most tire tech's would recommend 4 of the same. Is this really
true for a car which doesn't get driven very fast or often. Or is this a
common strategy to sell more tires?

Mark-;[=

Most city dwellers have NO need of snow tires. Just more suckers making the
tire companies rich.
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TeGGeR®
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 9:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Tires ... Reply with quote

"Sharx35" <sharx35@hotmail.com> wrote in
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Most city dwellers have NO need of snow tires. Just more suckers
making the tire companies rich.






What planet are you on?

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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 10:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Tires ... Reply with quote

"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
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"Sharx35" <sharx35@hotmail.com> wrote in
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Most city dwellers have NO need of snow tires. Just more suckers
making the tire companies rich.






What planet are you on?

MY world is a world where I do NOT waste money on bullshit like snow tires.

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mark@caddproductivity.com
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 10:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Tires ... Reply with quote

Ha! Nothing like a good disagreement to wade in to just before lunch. I
think Sharx is on the same planet, just the sort who crosses against the
light knowing that in principal it is against the law to run over
pedestrians. Having said that, I agree most* city folk don't need snow
tires, however most city folk don't know which boat their car is in
until its in a ditch. In other words you're better with snows 'cause
winter storms happen and they suck. Having said that*, I'm heading out
later to get 4 Michelin Harmony on the (vaunted) Cressida. Here's hoping
that as I swear at the slack jawed idiots on HWY 401 this winter, I'm
not the one they've slowed down to gawk at.

Mark
<being cheap by necessity at the moment>



Quote:
Sharx35 wrote:

What planet are you on?


MY world is a world where I do NOT waste money on bullshit like snow tires.


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TeGGeR®



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