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Ray O
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 6:56 am Post subject:
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"Scott in Florida" <JustAsk@Florida.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | On Tue, 8 Nov 2005 18:04:33 -0600, "Ray O"
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"Scott in Florida" <JustAsk@Florida.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 8 Nov 2005 17:43:31 -0600, "Ray O"
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"Scott in Florida" <JustAsk@Florida.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 8 Nov 2005 17:03:40 -0600, "Ray O"
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"Scott in Florida" <JustAsk@Florida.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 8 Nov 2005 16:09:25 -0600, "Ray O"
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"Built_Well" <builtwell@bbbbbb.com> wrote in message
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Of course, Ford could not keep air bags killed off
forever--but he sure tried apparently. The
preceding Mother Jones article was written in 1977.
I'm sure that Mother Jones writers could teach all these respected
investigative journalists, conservative politicians, and automotive
engineers and executives many lessons in accurate investigative
journalism,
unbiased reporting, and automotive engineering. Where do they sign
up?
Seat belt interlocks and buzzers have to be a good idea if Mother
Jones
says
so.
LOL....your tongue is sticking thru your cheek....LOL
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Scott in Florida
It's that obvious?
Yes....LOL
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Scott in Florida
Gotta work on my Oriental subtlety and obtuseness.
Nah...it is just fine....
LOL
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Scott in Florida
Thanks!
ur welcome.....
Does your cheek hurt?
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Scott in Florida
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LOL, Naw, it gets plenty of exercise!
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Ray O
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 7:01 am Post subject:
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"Scott in Florida" <JustAsk@Florida.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 00:08:26 GMT, "Built_Well" <bw@bbbbb.com> wrote:
Incidentally, "Mother Jones" is a highly respected and
journalistically rigorous publication. Go to any public
library and you'll find it there, and certainly any university
library.
The name comes from a social activist named Jones.
Oh? Highly respected?
Just looked at the home page...and came up with this tripe...
Cheney's Torture Kick
Dick Cheney is truly insane. The vice-president is now off making
impassioned pleas in defense of torture:
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Scott in Florida
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I looked up the magazine and web page too. "Mother" Jones had nothing to
do with the not for profit agency that publishes the magazine.
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Scott in Florida
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 7:09 am Post subject:
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On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 00:53:18 GMT, "Built_Well" <bw@bbbbb.com> wrote:
| Quote: | There's also an article on the MotherJones.com
home page called
"The Lie Factory: How Bush Fabricated the Case for War"
I'll tell you this. Dubya is a good liar. I
actually believed for a while that *he* believed there
were weapons of mass destruction.
As good a liar as Dubya is, he's an even better
thief, having stolen two elections with the help of
brudda Jeb in Florida, who probably dumped lotsa
election ballots in the Gulf of Mexico, so to speak.
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ROFLMAO.....
Bush lied?
ROFLMAO
Not in this lifetime...
Stole two elections?
From Demorats?
He didn't even have to show up to win against those losers!
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Hachiroku
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 7:13 am Post subject:
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On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 00:08:26 +0000, Built_Well wrote:
| Quote: | Incidentally, "Mother Jones" is a highly respected and
journalistically rigorous publication. Go to any public
library and you'll find it there, and certainly any university
library.
The name comes from a social activist named Jones.
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Yeah..I remember seeing it and attempting to read it. Even when I was
Liberal I couldn't take it...just too Off The Shelf for me.
I don't take radicalism in either direction. |
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Built_Well
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:03 am Post subject:
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Hmm, I think I wasn't wearing my belt at the time
of the accident, but I'm just assuming that because head
hit steering wheel.
However, it's possible I was wearing the belt, and
it just didn't work. I really can't recall.
How often to belts fail? Are there certain conditions
in which belts are more likely to fail--for example a
belt that has a twist or two in it?
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Gord Beaman
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:21 am Post subject:
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"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
| Quote: | The SRS system is designed to deploy in a frontal collision at a specific
speed, depending on the number of sensor triggered, and whether or not the
saffing senor is engaged by the hydraulic system.
mike hunt
"Built_Well" <built_well@bbbbbb.com> wrote in message
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Incidentally, my air bag did not come out, though if you
looked at the severely damaged front end of my car, you would
think it would have. And certainly my forehead and left eye say
the bag should have deployed.
Obviously air bags are not enough. They don't always
work.
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Built_Well
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:07 am Post subject:
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After looking at my steering wheel, a body shop worker
told me the air bag looked like it was trying to come out
because it seemed to him that the air bag's cover was not
entirely attached to the steering wheel.
He said it appeared as if the cover had separated
from the wheel, but for some reason did not completely
separate from the steering wheel.
Car is a '95 Toyota Tercel DX, 4-door automatic |
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Gord Beaman
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:13 am Post subject:
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"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
| Quote: | The SRS system is designed to deploy in a frontal collision at a specific
speed, depending on the number of sensor triggered, and whether or not the
saffing senor is engaged by the hydraulic system.
mike hunt
Mike, what's this 'saffing senor' (I assume you mean safing |
sensor?)...what's that all about?..and what hydraulic system?...
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Ray O
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:17 am Post subject:
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"Built_Well" <built_w@bbbbbb.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Do leather-wrapped steering wheels provide substantially
more cushion and protection in an accident in which your
forehead hits the steering wheel than
non-leather-wrapped steering wheels?
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No.
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Is there something better than leather that you can
put on the steering wheel to cushion your
head should the air bag not deploy?
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No.
Do they sell
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No and yes. No to a product that is supposed to cushion the steering wheel.
Yes to a product that will prevent you from striking the steering wheel in a
crash where the air bag does not deploy - a properly fastened seat belt.
Drive safely!
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Sharx35
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:17 am Post subject:
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"Built_Well" <bw@bbbbbbb.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | SharkX, you have a shallow understanding of politics.
Do more book reading and less tv watching. TV provides
you with simple illusions of "apparent democracy" and
you eat it up.
What democracy do we have when the vast
majority of Americans were opposed to the Iraq war, yet
we went to war? Is that democracy?
As far as I know though, no nation yet has
achieved democracy.
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I don't take gutless cowardly surrender monkeys like you seriously. Wusses
like you don't deserve freedom. |
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Ray O
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:18 am Post subject:
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"Built_Well" <bw@bbbbbbbb.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Hmm, I think I wasn't wearing my belt at the time
of the accident, but I'm just assuming that because head
hit steering wheel.
However, it's possible I was wearing the belt, and
it just didn't work. I really can't recall.
How often to belts fail? Are there certain conditions
in which belts are more likely to fail--for example a
belt that has a twist or two in it?
Thanks.
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I have never seen a seat belt fail that is properly fastened and has not
been modified or damaged. I am defining "fail" as not functioning as
designed. Seatbelts do have some stretch designed in and if the belt is
pulled out for some reason, like if the wearer is reaching forward at the
time of impact, it may not keep you from striking something.
A twist or two in the belt will not cause it to fail but it might give you a
bruise where the twist is.
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Ray O
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:18 am Post subject:
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"Built_Well" <bw@bbbb.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | After looking at my steering wheel, a body shop worker
told me the air bag looked like it was trying to come out
because it seemed to him that the air bag's cover was not
entirely attached to the steering wheel.
He said it appeared as if the cover had separated
from the wheel, but for some reason did not completely
separate from the steering wheel.
Car is a '95 Toyota Tercel DX, 4-door automatic
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How fast was your car traveling at the time of the accident? What hit you
or what did you hit? Where did the other object come in contact with your
car? If it was another car that was in motion, how fast was it going and in
what direction relative to the motion of your car?
I've seen many deployed air bags and I've seen air bags deployed in
demonstrations. I have never heard of an instance where an air bag was
partially deployed. The nature of the device that deploys the air bag is
such that it is an all or nothing event. Basically, in an accident, if at
least 2 of the 3 deceleration sensors sense a crash that is mostly head-on
at the front of the vehicle at a high enough speed, a circuit is closed,
sending a voltage to the squib in the air bag. The easiest way to picture a
squib is like the coils in an electric stove. When current is sent to the
squib, the coil instantaneously heats up and a small explosive charge
sitting on top of the squib ignites. The gas from the explosion fills the
bag, forcing it past the cover. it is a very simple and redundant system,
and I have never heard of any instance from any manufacturer where it failed
to deploy under the proper parameters. If there is a problem with the air
bag system, and icon will illuminate on the instrument panel to warn the
driver to have it checked out.
If the air bag was supposed to deploy and for some reason did not, the
steering wheel cover would appear untouched. It would not appear to be
"partially deployed" or stuck.
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Built_Well
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:18 am Post subject:
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SharkX, you have a shallow understanding of politics.
Do more book reading and less tv watching. TV provides
you with simple illusions of "apparent democracy" and
you eat it up.
What democracy do we have when the vast
majority of Americans were opposed to the Iraq war, yet
we went to war? Is that democracy?
As far as I know though, no nation yet has
achieved democracy. |
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Sharx35
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:18 am Post subject:
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"Built_Well" <bw@bbbbbbb.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | OT - OT :
I guess I'm lucky. I'm alive and eye/forehead improving daily.
Someone that I didn't personally know but who lived not even a
mile away from me died in Bush's war of lies for oil. He was a senior
majoring in physics at the University of Missouri--Columbia. Lived
at University Place, and died in an ambush.
What a friggin' waste. Impeach than summa pitch.
The worst trouble we had under Clinton was his trying to get
head in the oval office from a willing partner. There's no comparison
between the Head-loving Clinton and the Chicken Hawk Bush who
purposefully hid in the National Guard during Vietnam and was once
apparently a coke-head AND a drunk driver.
It's time the Senate and House grew some balls and impeached
Bush. But what balls have they when even the Democrats voted for
this immoral war. And why is it that the most outspoken Democratic
opponent of the war, perhaps the fiercest opponent of the war, the
great Senator Paul Wellstone of Minnesota, was killed in a plane crash on
the eve of the war? Not exactly on the eve, but close to it.
Somehow, I'm not convinced Wellstone wasn't assassinated by
that Houston oil mafia Bush represents. The same no-goods (along
with L.B.J.) killed Kennedy in '63, and their cowardly successors may
very well have eliminated Wellstone. I have no evidence for this, but
would not be in the least surprised. Politics is dirty, dirtier than
we know. "J.R. Ewing" was an innocent next to these dirty bastards.
It's time we impeached George Bush for his purposeful lying to
the American people.
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It's time we kicked yo' Momma's ass for fornicating with those lunatic
asylum inmates. |
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Built_Well
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:18 am Post subject:
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OT - OT :
I guess I'm lucky. I'm alive and eye/forehead improving daily.
Someone that I didn't personally know but who lived not even a
mile away from me died in Bush's war of lies for oil. He was a senior
majoring in physics at the University of Missouri--Columbia. Lived
at University Place, and died in an ambush.
What a friggin' waste. Impeach than summa pitch.
The worst trouble we had under Clinton was his trying to get
head in the oval office from a willing partner. There's no comparison
between the Head-loving Clinton and the Chicken Hawk Bush who
purposefully hid in the National Guard during Vietnam and was once
apparently a coke-head AND a drunk driver.
It's time the Senate and House grew some balls and impeached
Bush. But what balls have they when even the Democrats voted for
this immoral war. And why is it that the most outspoken Democratic
opponent of the war, perhaps the fiercest opponent of the war, the
great Senator Paul Wellstone of Minnesota, was killed in a plane crash on
the eve of the war? Not exactly on the eve, but close to it.
Somehow, I'm not convinced Wellstone wasn't assassinated by
that Houston oil mafia Bush represents. The same no-goods (along
with L.B.J.) killed Kennedy in '63, and their cowardly successors may
very well have eliminated Wellstone. I have no evidence for this, but
would not be in the least surprised. Politics is dirty, dirtier than
we know. "J.R. Ewing" was an innocent next to these dirty bastards.
It's time we impeached George Bush for his purposeful lying to
the American people. |
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