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Jean-Paul
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Sun Oct 30, 2005 9:14 am Post subject:
Looked and drove new Porsche 911 |
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Got tired of wainting for new M4, M3 or whatever it will be called. So I
went and visited the Porsche dealership. Loved the car. Really beautiful
and fun to drive. But BMW seems to cater to the creature comforts much
better. No IPOD availability. Not even satalite radio option. I don't
understand! I discovered that the factory will paint the car any color
you like, but you cannot get radio technology that is years old. Again I
don't understand! My wife and I have been accostumed to the spoiling of
BMW. I guess we will wait for the M3/4. Performance and luxury.
Jean-Paul
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R. Mark Clayton
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Sun Oct 30, 2005 11:09 am Post subject:
Re: Looked and drove new Porsche 911 |
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"Jean-Paul" <salesNOSPAM@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1dce439ce4a79ff298969e@news.east.cox.net...
| Quote: | Got tired of wainting for new M4, M3 or whatever it will be called. So I
went and visited the Porsche dealership. Loved the car. Really beautiful
and fun to drive. But BMW seems to cater to the creature comforts much
better. No IPOD availability. Not even satalite radio option. I don't
understand! I discovered that the factory will paint the car any color
you like, but you cannot get radio technology that is years old. Again I
don't understand! My wife and I have been accostumed to the spoiling of
BMW. I guess we will wait for the M3/4. Performance and luxury.
Jean-Paul
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You are pressing on along a country road. As you round a sweeping bend your
back wheels unfortunately hit upon a patch of wet leaves. Describe what
happens next: -
BMW
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Dean Dark
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Sun Oct 30, 2005 5:36 pm Post subject:
Re: Looked and drove new Porsche 911 |
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On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 11:09:19 +0000 (UTC), "R. Mark Clayton"
<nospamclayton@btinternet.com> wrote:
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You are pressing on along a country road. As you round a sweeping bend your
back wheels unfortunately hit upon a patch of wet leaves. Describe what
happens next: -
BMW
Porsche 911
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In both cases, you are at risk of drifting sideways off the road. I
think what you're trying to get at is the danger of an inexperienced
driver snapping off the throttle in such circumstances. If you do
something as daft as that, then the 911 is more likely to go twirly on
you than *any* front engined car. It comes down to driving skills.
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Dan.
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Blake Dodson
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Sun Oct 30, 2005 7:27 pm Post subject:
Re: Looked and drove new Porsche 911 |
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I downshift and powersteer around the bend...
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Harry
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Mon Oct 31, 2005 3:29 am Post subject:
Re: Looked and drove new Porsche 911 |
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Hi,
I was just in the same position as you are, after my M3 was stolen in July.
I didn't want to wait 2 years+ for the new M3, and consider getting another
E46 wasteful when it is being replaced.
Besides, if the new M3 looks as anonymous and disinteresting as the new 3
series, I would have a problem anyway.
I went for the 911 and took delivery of a new 911S Carrera convertible 4
weeks ago.
All I can tell you is that it is the best car I have ever driven.
The options may not be as advanced as BMW, but if you want a car that drives
like a dream then this is it.
I may be out of line posting this back to the BMW ng, but after driving the
911 I'll never be going back to BMW.
"Jean-Paul" <salesNOSPAM@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1dce439ce4a79ff298969e@news.east.cox.net...
| Quote: | Got tired of wainting for new M4, M3 or whatever it will be called. So I
went and visited the Porsche dealership. Loved the car. Really beautiful
and fun to drive. But BMW seems to cater to the creature comforts much
better. No IPOD availability. Not even satalite radio option. I don't
understand! I discovered that the factory will paint the car any color
you like, but you cannot get radio technology that is years old. Again I
don't understand! My wife and I have been accostumed to the spoiling of
BMW. I guess we will wait for the M3/4. Performance and luxury.
Jean-Paul
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Dori A Schmetterling
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Mon Oct 31, 2005 3:47 am Post subject:
Re: Looked and drove new Porsche 911 |
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Trouble is, the only family car in the Porsche stable is pug-ugly.
DAS
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"Harry" <harry@leavemealone.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Hi,
I was just in the same position as you are, after my M3 was stolen in
July.
I didn't want to wait 2 years+ for the new M3, and consider getting
another E46 wasteful when it is being replaced.
Besides, if the new M3 looks as anonymous and disinteresting as the new 3
series, I would have a problem anyway.
I went for the 911 and took delivery of a new 911S Carrera convertible 4
weeks ago.
All I can tell you is that it is the best car I have ever driven.
The options may not be as advanced as BMW, but if you want a car that
drives like a dream then this is it.
I may be out of line posting this back to the BMW ng, but after driving
the 911 I'll never be going back to BMW.
"Jean-Paul" <salesNOSPAM@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1dce439ce4a79ff298969e@news.east.cox.net...
Got tired of wainting for new M4, M3 or whatever it will be called. So I
went and visited the Porsche dealership. Loved the car. Really beautiful
and fun to drive. But BMW seems to cater to the creature comforts much
better. No IPOD availability. Not even satalite radio option. I don't
understand! I discovered that the factory will paint the car any color
you like, but you cannot get radio technology that is years old. Again I
don't understand! My wife and I have been accostumed to the spoiling of
BMW. I guess we will wait for the M3/4. Performance and luxury.
Jean-Paul
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Jeff Strickland
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Mon Oct 31, 2005 4:22 am Post subject:
Re: Looked and drove new Porsche 911 |
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It's okay Dori, you can say it's butt ugly. We don't mind.
"Dori A Schmetterling" <ng@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Trouble is, the only family car in the Porsche stable is pug-ugly.
DAS
For direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling
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"Harry" <harry@leavemealone.com> wrote in message
news:1130707935_521@spool6-east.superfeed.net...
Hi,
I was just in the same position as you are, after my M3 was stolen in
July.
I didn't want to wait 2 years+ for the new M3, and consider getting
another E46 wasteful when it is being replaced.
Besides, if the new M3 looks as anonymous and disinteresting as the new 3
series, I would have a problem anyway.
I went for the 911 and took delivery of a new 911S Carrera convertible 4
weeks ago.
All I can tell you is that it is the best car I have ever driven.
The options may not be as advanced as BMW, but if you want a car that
drives like a dream then this is it.
I may be out of line posting this back to the BMW ng, but after driving
the 911 I'll never be going back to BMW.
"Jean-Paul" <salesNOSPAM@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1dce439ce4a79ff298969e@news.east.cox.net...
Got tired of wainting for new M4, M3 or whatever it will be called. So I
went and visited the Porsche dealership. Loved the car. Really beautiful
and fun to drive. But BMW seems to cater to the creature comforts much
better. No IPOD availability. Not even satalite radio option. I don't
understand! I discovered that the factory will paint the car any color
you like, but you cannot get radio technology that is years old. Again I
don't understand! My wife and I have been accostumed to the spoiling of
BMW. I guess we will wait for the M3/4. Performance and luxury.
Jean-Paul
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Dori A Schmetterling
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Mon Oct 31, 2005 9:13 am Post subject:
Re: Looked and drove new Porsche 911 |
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In the case of the Cayenne I could also use that term, although I am not
sure I need to:
pug
. noun a dwarf of dog with a broad flat nose and deeply wrinkled face.
DAS
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"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | It's okay Dori, you can say it's butt ugly. We don't mind.
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Jeff Strickland
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Tue Nov 01, 2005 3:03 am Post subject:
Re: Looked and drove new Porsche 911 |
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I could give the definition of butt, but my guess is that you already know.
Having said that, I suppose some butts are worth the effort it takes to look
at, and in such cases "butt ugly" is a contradiction in terms.
"Dori A Schmetterling" <ng@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
news:7rydnRuEn49CDvjeRVnygw@pipex.net...
| Quote: | In the case of the Cayenne I could also use that term, although I am not
sure I need to:
pug
. noun a dwarf of dog with a broad flat nose and deeply wrinkled face.
DAS
For direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling
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"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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It's okay Dori, you can say it's butt ugly. We don't mind.
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Harry
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Tue Nov 01, 2005 3:49 am Post subject:
Re: Looked and drove new Porsche 911 |
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"Dori A Schmetterling" <ng@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
news:PKGdnYcNN8A4ovjeRVnyuw@pipex.net...
| Quote: | Trouble is, the only family car in the Porsche stable is pug-ugly.
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Agreed, that's why it also cost me for a family car for my wife.
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DAS
For direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling
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"Harry" <harry@leavemealone.com> wrote in message
news:1130707935_521@spool6-east.superfeed.net...
Hi,
I was just in the same position as you are, after my M3 was stolen in
July.
I didn't want to wait 2 years+ for the new M3, and consider getting
another E46 wasteful when it is being replaced.
Besides, if the new M3 looks as anonymous and disinteresting as the new 3
series, I would have a problem anyway.
I went for the 911 and took delivery of a new 911S Carrera convertible 4
weeks ago.
All I can tell you is that it is the best car I have ever driven.
The options may not be as advanced as BMW, but if you want a car that
drives like a dream then this is it.
I may be out of line posting this back to the BMW ng, but after driving
the 911 I'll never be going back to BMW.
"Jean-Paul" <salesNOSPAM@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1dce439ce4a79ff298969e@news.east.cox.net...
Got tired of wainting for new M4, M3 or whatever it will be called. So I
went and visited the Porsche dealership. Loved the car. Really beautiful
and fun to drive. But BMW seems to cater to the creature comforts much
better. No IPOD availability. Not even satalite radio option. I don't
understand! I discovered that the factory will paint the car any color
you like, but you cannot get radio technology that is years old. Again I
don't understand! My wife and I have been accostumed to the spoiling of
BMW. I guess we will wait for the M3/4. Performance and luxury.
Jean-Paul
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Princess Morgiah
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Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:14 am Post subject:
Re: Looked and drove new Porsche 911 |
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"Jean-Paul" <salesNOSPAM@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1dce439ce4a79ff298969e@news.east.cox.net...
| Quote: | Got tired of wainting for new M4, M3 or whatever it will be called. So I
went and visited the Porsche dealership. Loved the car. Really beautiful
and fun to drive. But BMW seems to cater to the creature comforts much
better. No IPOD availability. Not even satalite radio option. I don't
understand! I discovered that the factory will paint the car any color
you like, but you cannot get radio technology that is years old. Again I
don't understand! My wife and I have been accostumed to the spoiling of
BMW. I guess we will wait for the M3/4. Performance and luxury.
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I'm biased towards the BMW (but that's mainly because of the fact that I've
yet to see even a single Porsche that I like), but I'm wondering why you
single out the iPod or satelite radio options? Surely there are more
important things on the road or in your car?
Besides that, I've never understood the need for iPods or stuff like that in
a car - just get a decent sound system and use a CD changer.
Just my 2 cents...
Princess Morgiah |
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R. Mark Clayton
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Thu Nov 03, 2005 10:06 am Post subject:
Re: Looked and drove new Porsche 911 |
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"Jean-Paul" <salesNOSPAM@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
| Quote: | You suggested CD's. Suggesting listening to a CD instead of an IPOD is
like suggesting listening to eight track tapes. MP3 players are here to
stay.
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Indeed, although to be fair to iPOD's the reduction in quality of a decent
MP3 over a CD is nothing like as much as on lo-fi 8-track.
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Or you have experianced and IPOD and you obviously don't like music to
the degree that I do. Some people don't understand why people would
spend so much money on a car.
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What has the means of delivery got to do with with how much one likes music?
Even then some people like acoustic, live performances, recordings (on
different media) etc. A lot of people prefer to listen in a normal room (or
cabin in a car) and not have a pair of 'phones on their head.
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As far as a CD's, if you listen to one or two, you are not really an
enthusiast and can cope. Commercial radio, can't stand it, won't listen
to it.
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Dave Plowman (News)
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Thu Nov 03, 2005 10:59 am Post subject:
Re: Looked and drove new Porsche 911 |
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In article <MPG.1dd3951c132a8ee98969f@news.east.cox.net>,
Jean-Paul <salesNOSPAM@jplanaux.com> wrote:
| Quote: | You suggested CD's. Suggesting listening to a CD instead of an IPOD is
like suggesting listening to eight track tapes. MP3 players are here to
stay.
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Except that CD is far higher quality than 8-track. Oh - and MP3 too,
obviously.
--
*24 hours in a day ... 24 beers in a case ... coincidence? *
Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW
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Dave Plowman (News)
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Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:05 am Post subject:
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In article <dkcnfr$t0o$1@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>,
R. Mark Clayton <nospamclayton@btinternet.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Indeed, although to be fair to iPOD's the reduction in quality of a
decent MP3 over a CD is nothing like as much as on lo-fi 8-track.
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I've actually got a 'death throw' 8-track made by Woolensack. Uses
Ferrichrome tapes and has Dolby B. I'd say it beats MP3 in performance. ;-)
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*Hang in there, retirement is only thirty years away! *
Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW
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Jean-Paul
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Thu Nov 03, 2005 3:32 pm Post subject:
Re: Looked and drove new Porsche 911 |
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In article <SLbaf.38396$tB.1849393@phobos.telenet-ops.be>,
princess_morgiah_nospamplease@yahoo.com says...
Driving fast down a winding road is not the same as driving fast down a
winding road with great music on a wonderful sound system!!!!!!
The BMW and Porsche satisfies the first, but commercial radio and CDs do
not satisfy the second.
A couple of observations:
Obviously you have never owned an IPOD. This is just something you do
not understand until you own one. Take it from me, because I never
understood it till I owned one.
You suggested CD's. Suggesting listening to a CD instead of an IPOD is
like suggesting listening to eight track tapes. MP3 players are here to
stay.
Or you have experianced and IPOD and you obviously don't like music to
the degree that I do. Some people don't understand why people would
spend so much money on a car.
You and I obviously are a car enthusiast. Our degrees of enthusiasm may
be different towards cars (and other things).
I like sporty cars (BMWs and Porsches, as well as others).
I am also a music enthusiast. That is why I am interested in satalite
radio and IPODs.
As far as a CD's, if you listen to one or two, you are not really an
enthusiast and can cope. Commercial radio, can't stand it, won't listen
to it.
| Quote: | "Jean-Paul" <salesNOSPAM@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1dce439ce4a79ff298969e@news.east.cox.net...
Got tired of wainting for new M4, M3 or whatever it will be called. So I
went and visited the Porsche dealership. Loved the car. Really beautiful
and fun to drive. But BMW seems to cater to the creature comforts much
better. No IPOD availability. Not even satalite radio option. I don't
understand! I discovered that the factory will paint the car any color
you like, but you cannot get radio technology that is years old. Again I
don't understand! My wife and I have been accostumed to the spoiling of
BMW. I guess we will wait for the M3/4. Performance and luxury.
I'm biased towards the BMW (but that's mainly because of the fact that I've
yet to see even a single Porsche that I like), but I'm wondering why you
single out the iPod or satelite radio options? Surely there are more
important things on the road or in your car?
Besides that, I've never understood the need for iPods or stuff like that in
a car - just get a decent sound system and use a CD changer.
Just my 2 cents...
Princess Morgiah
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