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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 5:25 pm    Post subject: KA24E help Reply with quote

Okay guys, time to put on the old thinking caps but first a bit of history.
I just took delivery on a customers "90 Stanza with the above mentioned
KA24E engine. The first shop the owner took it to (they indicated an
ignorantly cheap price) determined it was a broken timing belt (oh,
really???) and pulled off the timing cover. When he opened it up and found
a broken chain (what happend to the belt?) it blew his mind and all work
stopped because now the job couldn't be done for $150. The car sat at his
"shop" for almost three years until I picked it up last week.

So... Because this job is a space filler I'm biting off little bits at a
time. The first thing I did was pull the head to take care of the banged
valves, get a new timing cover to replace the grenaded one, new timing
set, tensioner, gaskets, etc. Inventoried the parts and cleaned them up in
preparation for reassembly. The oil pan went in the solvent tank to soak
out the caked on oil, dirt and shrapnel. While the pan was soaking I
cleaned the front of the block and installed the new chain guides and
crank gear. The whole time I was looking at the front of the block
something seemed wrong but I couldn't put my finger on it.

Now I'll tell you right now that I've only done 15-20 timing sets on one
of these engines in my life so I'm not the most experienced at it and
thought I was just making things harder than they had to be. Next came
cleaning out the pan and this is where I made my discovery that leads to
the question. Along with a bunch of aluminum chunks and broken screws from
the oil pump cover, I retreived the key to my concern... The timing chain
oil squirter that was broken off when the chain let go. Hoopty doo, it's
my luck day. Even better, when I called the dealer to order it I figured
they'd say you have to buy a new block to get on. Wrong again, it'll be
here Monday. With luck like that I need to go buy some Lotto tickets.

So here are the questions that I need help with. I can't find any
documentation to guide me, including at the dealer, and none of their
techs know either.

1. Is the oil squirter threaded into the block or pressed into the block?


2. If it's threaded, are they right or left hand threads?

Those two questions will be apparent when I get the part in hand. I just
wanted to find out so I can get the squirter removed during some free time
this weeend. Here is the million dollar question.

3. When the squirter is installed, what is the orientation? Maybe the
better way to ask is does the dot go at 12 or 6 (3 or 9?) o'clock? If
you've ever looked at one you'll know exactly what I mean.

Anyway, thanks for any help you can provide. The beer's on me.

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Codifus
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 8:19 pm    Post subject: Re: KA24E help Reply with quote

vwhobo wrote:
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Okay guys, time to put on the old thinking caps but first a bit of history.
I just took delivery on a customers "90 Stanza with the above mentioned
KA24E engine. The first shop the owner took it to (they indicated an
ignorantly cheap price) determined it was a broken timing belt (oh,
really???) and pulled off the timing cover. When he opened it up and found
a broken chain (what happend to the belt?) it blew his mind and all work
stopped because now the job couldn't be done for $150. The car sat at his
"shop" for almost three years until I picked it up last week.

So... Because this job is a space filler I'm biting off little bits at a
time. The first thing I did was pull the head to take care of the banged
valves, get a new timing cover to replace the grenaded one, new timing
set, tensioner, gaskets, etc. Inventoried the parts and cleaned them up in
preparation for reassembly. The oil pan went in the solvent tank to soak
out the caked on oil, dirt and shrapnel. While the pan was soaking I
cleaned the front of the block and installed the new chain guides and
crank gear. The whole time I was looking at the front of the block
something seemed wrong but I couldn't put my finger on it.

Now I'll tell you right now that I've only done 15-20 timing sets on one
of these engines in my life so I'm not the most experienced at it and
thought I was just making things harder than they had to be. Next came
cleaning out the pan and this is where I made my discovery that leads to
the question. Along with a bunch of aluminum chunks and broken screws from
the oil pump cover, I retreived the key to my concern... The timing chain
oil squirter that was broken off when the chain let go. Hoopty doo, it's
my luck day. Even better, when I called the dealer to order it I figured
they'd say you have to buy a new block to get on. Wrong again, it'll be
here Monday. With luck like that I need to go buy some Lotto tickets.

So here are the questions that I need help with. I can't find any
documentation to guide me, including at the dealer, and none of their
techs know either.

1. Is the oil squirter threaded into the block or pressed into the block?


2. If it's threaded, are they right or left hand threads?

Those two questions will be apparent when I get the part in hand. I just
wanted to find out so I can get the squirter removed during some free time
this weeend. Here is the million dollar question.

3. When the squirter is installed, what is the orientation? Maybe the
better way to ask is does the dot go at 12 or 6 (3 or 9?) o'clock? If
you've ever looked at one you'll know exactly what I mean.

Anyway, thanks for any help you can provide. The beer's on me.


I'm curious. Why go through all this trouble to rebuild a 15 year old

motor that has been trashed by the broken timing chain?

CD
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vwhobo
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 9:22 pm    Post subject: Re: KA24E help Reply with quote

Let's see. Because it's an otherwise very nice car and the customer wants
me to.

So now let me ask you a question. Do you have anything to add or are you
just wasting bandwidth?

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Codifus
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 11:04 pm    Post subject: Re: KA24E help Reply with quote

vwhobo wrote:
Quote:
Let's see. Because it's an otherwise very nice car and the customer wants
me to.

So now let me ask you a question. Do you have anything to add or are you
just wasting bandwidth?

Dude, no need to get hostile. Like I said, I was curious. I happen to

like the Stanza. That was the 1st car the put me onto Nissans.

CD
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