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Goinsane
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Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:15 am Post subject:
Toyota supra 87 power lock problem |
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I own a Toyota supra '87, this morning i found out that my car was
unlocked, so i pushed the lock button and I thought it was locked ,
then I realized it was still unlocked, when I went inside the car to
check the locks, I saw that both locks (Passenger and driver) didn go
all the way , they got stucked like in the middle.
Has anyone had this problem before? It just got cold in Tennesse,
don't know if that could be a factor, and just need lubrication. but
it seems strange that both doors have the same problem.
thank you
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Ray O
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Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:15 am Post subject:
Re: Toyota supra 87 power lock problem |
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"Goinsane" <fsimonich@gmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I own a Toyota supra '87, this morning i found out that my car was
unlocked, so i pushed the lock button and I thought it was locked ,
then I realized it was still unlocked, when I went inside the car to
check the locks, I saw that both locks (Passenger and driver) didn go
all the way , they got stucked like in the middle.
Has anyone had this problem before? It just got cold in Tennesse,
don't know if that could be a factor, and just need lubrication. but
it seems strange that both doors have the same problem.
thank you
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There are a few possible causes:
* Someone may have tried to slim-jim the car - tried 1 door, was
unsuccessful, then tried the other door, bending the lock rods in the
process.
* Coincidence - lock rods are binding
* Coincidence - lock actuators are binding
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Ray O
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Hachiroku
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Thu Oct 27, 2005 5:03 pm Post subject:
Re: Toyota supra 87 power lock problem |
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On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 21:27:49 -0700, Goinsane wrote:
| Quote: | I own a Toyota supra '87, this morning i found out that my car was
unlocked, so i pushed the lock button and I thought it was locked ,
then I realized it was still unlocked, when I went inside the car to
check the locks, I saw that both locks (Passenger and driver) didn go
all the way , they got stucked like in the middle.
Has anyone had this problem before? It just got cold in Tennesse,
don't know if that could be a factor, and just need lubrication. but
it seems strange that both doors have the same problem.
thank you
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So, you press the button, and you don't hear a Ca-CHUNK!?
Try pressing the lock on the passenger's side. If the doors lock and
unlock, chances are it's the switch on the driver's door.
The switch on the driver's door gets a LOT of use, and these have a
tendancy to wear out. What I have found on different models:
1. The switch just 'wears out'. There is a lot of current going through
this switch. The build up carbon that keeps the contacts from making
contact, and keeps the doors from locking. You may be able to remove the
switch without removing the door panel by GENTLY prying it out. Look at
the contacts. If they are black, this could be the problem. If you can
solder, flow some solder over the contacts. Or, get an emery board or a
small file and file the contacts nice and shiny. It's a good idea to flow
some solder after doing this to protect the copper.
2. Is the plastic switch worn? This is more common on the Supras. The
plastic gets brittle with years, and one of the pivots breaks off, causing
the switch not to press on the contact. $7 at a Toyota dealer, and easy to
replace. Try pressing the switch and holding it down while moving it side
to side to chack this.
3. The door control got wet and is malfunctioning. You're going to have to
remove the door panel for this one. The lock control is in the driver's
door, near the bottom. You'll see the wiring running to it. The door
control rarely goes bad. If the other suggestions didn't work, check the
wiring and make sure the connectors are seated properly.
Good luck. Let's hear what you find, esp if it's something different!
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Hachiroku
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Thu Oct 27, 2005 5:16 pm Post subject:
Re: Toyota supra 87 power lock problem |
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On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 21:27:49 -0700, Goinsane wrote:
| Quote: | I own a Toyota supra '87, this morning i found out that my car was
unlocked, so i pushed the lock button and I thought it was locked ,
then I realized it was still unlocked, when I went inside the car to
check the locks, I saw that both locks (Passenger and driver) didn go
all the way , they got stucked like in the middle.
Has anyone had this problem before? It just got cold in Tennesse,
don't know if that could be a factor, and just need lubrication. but
it seems strange that both doors have the same problem.
thank you
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OK...I'm not awake yet. You SAID it was a Supra!!! DUH!
In this case, the first thing is to check the switch on the driver's door.
This is real common, and probably is the fact that the switch plastic
became brittle and the pivot broke. Press and hold the very end of the
switch and 'jiggle' your finger while doing so. It will probably lock.
GENTLY!!!! pry the trim plate out of the door. BE CAREFUL! There are metal
tabs that hold the trim into the door, and can become dislodged easily.
When I first got mine, the door kept locking and unlocking at will. What
had happened was one of the metal tabs dislodged and was hitting the
contacts.
Look at the trim plate and make sure that there are two brass metal
retainers. If not, one has fallen off and lodged in the switch. I would
disconnect the battery before digging. Locate the brass part, and if the
trim panel is not broken you can glue it back on. I used VELCRO glue; it's
the BEST Super Glue I have ever found. I repaired broken brittle plastic
pieces all over my '88 this way.
Once you get the trim plate off, you'll see the switch. Take a good look
at the plastic rocker and see if one of the lobes in the middle of the
plastic rocker has broken off. Go to the dealer and spend the $7 for a new
one, snap it into place by GENTLY pressing the lobes slightly (not on the
lobes directly!) and snap it in.
I'm telling you to do this...I just reach over and hit the button on the
passenger's side! Sometimes it will work if I press the very end of the
rocker on the driver's door and hold it there for a while, or jiggle my
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Hachiroku
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Thu Oct 27, 2005 5:48 pm Post subject:
Re: Toyota supra 87 power lock problem |
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On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 12:16:12 +0000, Hachiroku wrote:
| Quote: | On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 21:27:49 -0700, Goinsane wrote:
I own a Toyota supra '87, this morning i found out that my car was
unlocked, so i pushed the lock button and I thought it was locked ,
then I realized it was still unlocked, when I went inside the car to
check the locks, I saw that both locks (Passenger and driver) didn go
all the way , they got stucked like in the middle.
Has anyone had this problem before? It just got cold in Tennesse,
don't know if that could be a factor, and just need lubrication. but
it seems strange that both doors have the same problem.
thank you
OK...I'm not awake yet. You SAID it was a Supra!!! DUH!
In this case, the first thing is to check the switch on the driver's door.
This is real common, and probably is the fact that the switch plastic
became brittle and the pivot broke. Press and hold the very end of the
switch and 'jiggle' your finger while doing so. It will probably lock.
GENTLY!!!! pry the trim plate out of the door. BE CAREFUL! There are metal
tabs that hold the trim into the door, and can become dislodged easily.
When I first got mine, the door kept locking and unlocking at will. What
had happened was one of the metal tabs dislodged and was hitting the
contacts.
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Yeah, crummy instruction. Be careful, if you're not you'll ruin the door
insert or break the trim plate.
The absolute BEST way to do this is remove the door panel, if you don't
think you can remove the trim plate without damaging something. I think
this is the prescribed method, since the metal tabs really lock themselves
into place by digging into the chipboard.
By prying gently I mean, like taking a plastic tool or CAREFULLY with a
screwdriver, pressing on the ends of the trim plate. I got away with it,
without snapping or gouging anything...
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Look at the trim plate and make sure that there are two brass metal
retainers. If not, one has fallen off and lodged in the switch. I would
disconnect the battery before digging. Locate the brass part, and if the
trim panel is not broken you can glue it back on. I used VELCRO glue; it's
the BEST Super Glue I have ever found. I repaired broken brittle plastic
pieces all over my '88 this way.
Once you get the trim plate off, you'll see the switch. Take a good look
at the plastic rocker and see if one of the lobes in the middle of the
plastic rocker has broken off. Go to the dealer and spend the $7 for a new
one, snap it into place by GENTLY pressing the lobes slightly (not on the
lobes directly!) and snap it in.
I'm telling you to do this...I just reach over and hit the button on the
passenger's side! Sometimes it will work if I press the very end of the
rocker on the driver's door and hold it there for a while, or jiggle my
finger. |
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Codifus
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Thu Oct 27, 2005 6:05 pm Post subject:
Re: Toyota supra 87 power lock problem |
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Goinsane wrote:
| Quote: | I own a Toyota supra '87, this morning i found out that my car was
unlocked, so i pushed the lock button and I thought it was locked ,
then I realized it was still unlocked, when I went inside the car to
check the locks, I saw that both locks (Passenger and driver) didn go
all the way , they got stucked like in the middle.
Has anyone had this problem before? It just got cold in Tennesse,
don't know if that could be a factor, and just need lubrication. but
it seems strange that both doors have the same problem.
thank you
Your battery could be getting weak from: |
Old age, cold weather
Alternator about to go
Bad connections at the battery
I had a severely corroded Positive battery connection on my sentra, not
the big thick postive connection, but the other connection to the + on
the battery which feed power to the accessories.
Try those.
Hope this helps
CD |
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Goinsane
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Mon Oct 31, 2005 3:08 am Post subject:
Re: Toyota supra 87 power lock problem |
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Thank you guys for all your posts, I'm almost sure that this problem
with the locks has to do with the weather, yesterday the weather was
around 70 degrees, and guess what.. the lock worked, I tried that same
night when the weather was between the 40's and 50's and the locls
didn't go all the way I has to lock the car with the keys.
Now the problem is that I dont know what the bad weather could be
affecting the power locks. I thought if I had a old battery which it
is not old I could not even turn the car on. . Definitely I'm gonna
start with the battery and the terminals. Anyone else think of other
reasons?
thanks
Codifus wrote:
| Quote: | Goinsane wrote:
I own a Toyota supra '87, this morning i found out that my car was
unlocked, so i pushed the lock button and I thought it was locked ,
then I realized it was still unlocked, when I went inside the car to
check the locks, I saw that both locks (Passenger and driver) didn go
all the way , they got stucked like in the middle.
Has anyone had this problem before? It just got cold in Tennesse,
don't know if that could be a factor, and just need lubrication. but
it seems strange that both doors have the same problem.
thank you
Your battery could be getting weak from:
Old age, cold weather
Alternator about to go
Bad connections at the battery
I had a severely corroded Positive battery connection on my sentra, not
the big thick postive connection, but the other connection to the + on
the battery which feed power to the accessories.
Try those.
Hope this helps
CD |
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Hachiroku
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Mon Oct 31, 2005 8:48 am Post subject:
Re: Toyota supra 87 power lock problem |
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On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 21:27:49 -0700, Goinsane wrote:
| Quote: | I own a Toyota supra '87, this morning i found out that my car was
unlocked, so i pushed the lock button and I thought it was locked ,
then I realized it was still unlocked, when I went inside the car to
check the locks, I saw that both locks (Passenger and driver) didn go
all the way , they got stucked like in the middle.
Has anyone had this problem before? It just got cold in Tennesse,
don't know if that could be a factor, and just need lubrication. but
it seems strange that both doors have the same problem.
thank you
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Do the doors lock when you use the key in the doors? You said you 'pushed
the button'. Did you try the button on the passenger's door?
The contacts in the door switches get corroded and get a build-up on them
from the current flowing through them. An Emery board and a slight coat of
solder will cure this condition. but be careful of the plastic rockers
that go over the switches.
They may also be loaded with condensation on cold days, and not working
properly. |
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