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donquijote1954
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Mon Dec 20, 2004 11:13 pm Post subject:
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"Communists love monopoly; free people love options"
-myself (isn't it cute) ;)
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donquijote1954
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Mon Dec 20, 2004 11:17 pm Post subject:
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I liked this...
"The transportation system should be socially equitable and strengthen
civil rights; enabling all people to gain access to good jobs,
education and training, and needed services. Where possible, personal
transportation expenses should be minimized in ways that support wealth
creation. Integrated with land use planning, transportation should also
enhance the quality, livability and character of communities and
support revitalization without displacement. The transportation system
should allow every American to participate fully in society whether or
not they own a car and regardless of age, ability, ethnicity, or
income."
- From the Alliance for a New Transportation Charter
Nowadays, if you don't have a car you are f***! |
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Mon Dec 20, 2004 11:35 pm Post subject:
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Jack May wrote:
| Quote: | People buy what meets their needs, not just because it is there.
Transit
is there, but people don't buy because it does not meet their needs.
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The commuter train this past Saturday was sure crowded; indeed, demand
is up so much for that they had to add more trains to carry the demand.
In contrast, they're doing roadway on an expressway I use. It is four
lane (two each way) and one lane each side is closed. Yet traffic is
moving quite well along the single then, there just isn't that much
traffic. Doesn't seem like much demand for the highway.
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John Reiher
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Mon Dec 20, 2004 11:55 pm Post subject:
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In article <1103564658.764118.301940@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
"donquijote1954" <nolionnoproblem@hotmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Well, for one we got to make the License to Kill harder to get...
Driving tests and real-life driving
As traffic increases in America's cities, driving becomes increasingly
frustrating and difficult. Driving examinations have not responded to
these challenges. Specifically, American driving standards are not high
enough; people who lack driving skills-and driving sense- can get
licensed and re-licensed until something really bad happens.
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Well in the State of Washington, to get a Motorcycle endorsement on your
driver's license requires that you take a fairly rigorous written test,
and pass a tough, but fair driving test. Or you can take a class for
$200 that will give you an automatic pass on the test, but you have to
pass the class to get that endorsement.
If normal driving tests were as rigorous, we'd probably see fewer
problems on the road. I'd also do away with automatic renewal. You'd
have to pass a test every time your license came up for renewal,
although I'd have the class alternative, where if you take a driving
class and pass it, you get your license. The classes would have to be
DOT certified like the motorcycle classes.
And if you fail the test or the class, you better hope you have adequate
public transit nearby, because there would be a 6 month waiting period
till your next chance to take the test.
--
The Kedamono Dragon
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Check out the PowerPointers Shop at:
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donquijote1954
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Tue Dec 21, 2004 12:21 am Post subject:
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Sure, but we need a tougher license, not for motorcyclists, but for SUV
owners. They are the ones causing the mayhem!
They need an SUV endorsement! |
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Daniel J. Stern
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Tue Dec 21, 2004 1:38 am Post subject:
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On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, John Reiher wrote:
| Quote: | If normal driving tests were as rigorous, we'd probably see fewer
problems on the road. I'd also do away with automatic renewal. You'd
have to pass a test every time your license came up for renewal,
although I'd have the class alternative, where if you take a driving
class and pass it, you get your license. The classes would have to be
DOT certified like the motorcycle classes.
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If you knew anything about DOT certification, you'd know how meaningless
it is. |
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Mike Z. Helm
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Tue Dec 21, 2004 7:49 am Post subject:
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On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 10:55:01 -0800, John Reiher
<kedamono.Poit@Narf.mac.com>
| Quote: | If normal driving tests were as rigorous, we'd probably see fewer
problems on the road. I'd also do away with automatic renewal. You'd
have to pass a test every time your license came up for renewal,
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Assuming I live in this shithole of a state that long, it will be nearly
3 decades before I have to renew mine.
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"Freedom is not always a good thing." -- P.R. Smith, a self-described conservative and Bush supporter |
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Jack May
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Tue Dec 21, 2004 7:49 am Post subject:
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<hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote in message
news:1103567710.437669.258860@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | The commuter train this past Saturday was sure crowded; indeed, demand
is up so much for that they had to add more trains to carry the demand.
In contrast, they're doing roadway on an expressway I use. It is four
lane (two each way) and one lane each side is closed. Yet traffic is
moving quite well along the single then, there just isn't that much
traffic. Doesn't seem like much demand for the highway.
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Lying with statistics usually means "cherry picking" a single point of data
that is highly abnormal compared to the statistical distribution of the
data. Using a single point also has infinite variance which means it has
zero information.
Your example lying with statistics either for fun or ignorance. Hard to
decide which. |
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DonQuixote-v-Windmills
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Tue Dec 21, 2004 5:12 pm Post subject:
Re: prisoners in their cars, drivers deserve liberation |
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Jack May wrote:
| Quote: | hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote in message
news:1103567710.437669.258860@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
The commuter train this past Saturday was sure crowded; indeed,
demand
is up so much for that they had to add more trains to carry the
demand.
In contrast, they're doing roadway on an expressway I use. It is
four
lane (two each way) and one lane each side is closed. Yet traffic
is
moving quite well along the single then, there just isn't that much
traffic. Doesn't seem like much demand for the highway.
Lying with statistics usually means "cherry picking" a single point
of data
that is highly abnormal compared to the statistical distribution of
the
data. Using a single point also has infinite variance which means
it has
zero information.
Your example lying with statistics either for fun or ignorance. Hard
to
decide which.
Those are common sense facts. You don't need stats for that! |
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