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Psycho
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Sun Oct 09, 2005 6:27 am Post subject:
87 325is shifter |
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I just finished rebuilding the shifter on an 87 325is and I'm not
sure the action is what I expected. I replaced all of the bushings
including the front and rear bushings on the aluminum mount bar that
goes from the top of the tranny to the body. I guess I expected the
shift pattern to be very defined after the rebuild. What I got was
less play but I am missing the defined gear locations I expected. Is
this normal?
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John Burns
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Sun Oct 09, 2005 2:30 pm Post subject:
Re: 87 325is shifter |
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| Quote: | I just finished rebuilding the shifter on an 87 325is and I'm not
sure the action is what I expected. I replaced all of the bushings
including the front and rear bushings on the aluminum mount bar that
goes from the top of the tranny to the body. I guess I expected the
shift pattern to be very defined after the rebuild. What I got was
less play but I am missing the defined gear locations I expected. Is
this normal?
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I had new bushings put in my E30 and it shifts really nicely. It's kind
of hard to say without using your shifter though!
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Psycho
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 9:13 am Post subject:
Re: 87 325is shifter |
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Here's the latest problem. I rebuilt the entire shifter short of the
piece that actually connects the linkage to the tranny itself.
Shifting action wasn't exactly what I had hoped for but it worked way
better then before. One problem was that to find reverse it almost
seemed like you had to crank the shifter almost into the drivers seat.
Now, I can't find reverse at all and 1st and 2nd gear don't seem to
engage either. I'll be checking the linkage tomorrow but I figured I'd
throw a message in here to see what suggestions I got back. Thanks in
advance for any ideas you may have to offer...
On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 10:30:32 +0100, John Burns
<john@unixnerd.demon.co.uk> wrote:
| Quote: | I just finished rebuilding the shifter on an 87 325is and I'm not
sure the action is what I expected. I replaced all of the bushings
including the front and rear bushings on the aluminum mount bar that
goes from the top of the tranny to the body. I guess I expected the
shift pattern to be very defined after the rebuild. What I got was
less play but I am missing the defined gear locations I expected. Is
this normal?
I had new bushings put in my E30 and it shifts really nicely. It's kind
of hard to say without using your shifter though! |
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Lemuel Johnson
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Tue Nov 08, 2005 4:55 am Post subject:
Re: 87 325is shifter |
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Psycho wrote:
| Quote: | Here's the latest problem. I rebuilt the entire shifter short of the
piece that actually connects the linkage to the tranny itself.
Shifting action wasn't exactly what I had hoped for but it worked way
better then before. One problem was that to find reverse it almost
seemed like you had to crank the shifter almost into the drivers seat.
Now, I can't find reverse at all and 1st and 2nd gear don't seem to
engage either. I'll be checking the linkage tomorrow but I figured I'd
throw a message in here to see what suggestions I got back. Thanks in
advance for any ideas you may have to offer...
On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 10:30:32 +0100, John Burns
john@unixnerd.demon.co.uk> wrote:
I just finished rebuilding the shifter on an 87 325is and I'm not
sure the action is what I expected. I replaced all of the bushings
including the front and rear bushings on the aluminum mount bar that
goes from the top of the tranny to the body. I guess I expected the
shift pattern to be very defined after the rebuild. What I got was
less play but I am missing the defined gear locations I expected. Is
this normal?
I had new bushings put in my E30 and it shifts really nicely. It's kind
of hard to say without using your shifter though!
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Did you replace part number 13 in the drawing:
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=1113&mospid=47309&btnr=25_0074&hg=25&fg=05
Replacing that "joint" firmed up my shifting action quite a bit.
Lemuel Johnson |
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Psycho
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Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:22 am Post subject:
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That's actually the part I didn't replace. Problem I have now is I
can't get it into reverse at all and where it feels like it's in 1st
and 2nd, there's no gear.
On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 16:55:18 -0600, Lemuel Johnson
<lemuel@nono.ibm.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Psycho wrote:
Here's the latest problem. I rebuilt the entire shifter short of the
piece that actually connects the linkage to the tranny itself.
Shifting action wasn't exactly what I had hoped for but it worked way
better then before. One problem was that to find reverse it almost
seemed like you had to crank the shifter almost into the drivers seat.
Now, I can't find reverse at all and 1st and 2nd gear don't seem to
engage either. I'll be checking the linkage tomorrow but I figured I'd
throw a message in here to see what suggestions I got back. Thanks in
advance for any ideas you may have to offer...
On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 10:30:32 +0100, John Burns
john@unixnerd.demon.co.uk> wrote:
I just finished rebuilding the shifter on an 87 325is and I'm not
sure the action is what I expected. I replaced all of the bushings
including the front and rear bushings on the aluminum mount bar that
goes from the top of the tranny to the body. I guess I expected the
shift pattern to be very defined after the rebuild. What I got was
less play but I am missing the defined gear locations I expected. Is
this normal?
I had new bushings put in my E30 and it shifts really nicely. It's kind
of hard to say without using your shifter though!
Did you replace part number 13 in the drawing:
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=1113&mospid=47309&btnr=25_0074&hg=25&fg=05
Replacing that "joint" firmed up my shifting action quite a bit.
Lemuel Johnson |
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Lemuel Johnson
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 4:55 am Post subject:
Re: 87 325is shifter |
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Psycho wrote:
| Quote: | That's actually the part I didn't replace. Problem I have now is I
can't get it into reverse at all and where it feels like it's in 1st
and 2nd, there's no gear.
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The more that part wears, the less any side-to-side motion of the shift
handle gets transferred to the transmission. If the handle exhibits
considerable side-to-side free play when in gear you need a new shift
rod joint. I hear it's possible to replace without dropping the
driveshaft but I wouldn't want to try it unless I had the car on a lift.
Lem Johnson
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On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 16:55:18 -0600, Lemuel Johnson
lemuel@nono.ibm.com> wrote:
Psycho wrote:
Here's the latest problem. I rebuilt the entire shifter short of the
piece that actually connects the linkage to the tranny itself.
Shifting action wasn't exactly what I had hoped for but it worked way
better then before. One problem was that to find reverse it almost
seemed like you had to crank the shifter almost into the drivers seat.
Now, I can't find reverse at all and 1st and 2nd gear don't seem to
engage either. I'll be checking the linkage tomorrow but I figured I'd
throw a message in here to see what suggestions I got back. Thanks in
advance for any ideas you may have to offer...
On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 10:30:32 +0100, John Burns
john@unixnerd.demon.co.uk> wrote:
I just finished rebuilding the shifter on an 87 325is and I'm not
sure the action is what I expected. I replaced all of the bushings
including the front and rear bushings on the aluminum mount bar that
goes from the top of the tranny to the body. I guess I expected the
shift pattern to be very defined after the rebuild. What I got was
less play but I am missing the defined gear locations I expected. Is
this normal?
I had new bushings put in my E30 and it shifts really nicely. It's kind
of hard to say without using your shifter though!
Did you replace part number 13 in the drawing:
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=1113&mospid=47309&btnr=25_0074&hg=25&fg=05
Replacing that "joint" firmed up my shifting action quite a bit.
Lemuel Johnson |
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Jack
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:13 am Post subject:
Re: 87 325is shifter |
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From your description it seems to me that most of the input motion to the
gearshift lever is not making it to the transmission.
I have replaced the little trunnion fitting (part no 13 on the reference
sketch) on the transmission shaft on my e30 and gotten a noticeable
improvment in operation but it was no wheres near as sloppy as you describe
before I replaced it.
It seems that the only thing that would result in that much lost motion
would be if the fixed member (part no 1) had become disconnected at the
front end.
It might be useful if you could have someone move the gearshift lever
while you observe the resulting motion from under the car.
"Psycho" <psycho@tbcia.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | That's actually the part I didn't replace. Problem I have now is I
can't get it into reverse at all and where it feels like it's in 1st
and 2nd, there's no gear.
On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 16:55:18 -0600, Lemuel Johnson
lemuel@nono.ibm.com> wrote:
Psycho wrote:
Here's the latest problem. I rebuilt the entire shifter short of the
piece that actually connects the linkage to the tranny itself.
Shifting action wasn't exactly what I had hoped for but it worked way
better then before. One problem was that to find reverse it almost
seemed like you had to crank the shifter almost into the drivers seat.
Now, I can't find reverse at all and 1st and 2nd gear don't seem to
engage either. I'll be checking the linkage tomorrow but I figured I'd
throw a message in here to see what suggestions I got back. Thanks in
advance for any ideas you may have to offer...
On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 10:30:32 +0100, John Burns
john@unixnerd.demon.co.uk> wrote:
I just finished rebuilding the shifter on an 87 325is and I'm not
sure the action is what I expected. I replaced all of the bushings
including the front and rear bushings on the aluminum mount bar that
goes from the top of the tranny to the body. I guess I expected the
shift pattern to be very defined after the rebuild. What I got was
less play but I am missing the defined gear locations I expected. Is
this normal?
I had new bushings put in my E30 and it shifts really nicely. It's kind
of hard to say without using your shifter though!
Did you replace part number 13 in the drawing:
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=1113&mospid=47309&btnr=25_0074&hg=25&fg=05
Replacing that "joint" firmed up my shifting action quite a bit.
Lemuel Johnson |
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Psycho
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Fri Nov 18, 2005 2:24 am Post subject:
Re: 87 325is shifter |
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On Tue, 8 Nov 2005 23:34:37 -0800, "Jack" <jsnob@cmc.net> wrote:
| Quote: | From your description it seems to me that most of the input motion to the
gearshift lever is not making it to the transmission.
I have replaced the little trunnion fitting (part no 13 on the reference
sketch) on the transmission shaft on my e30 and gotten a noticeable
improvment in operation but it was no wheres near as sloppy as you describe
before I replaced it.
It seems that the only thing that would result in that much lost motion
would be if the fixed member (part no 1) had become disconnected at the
front end.
It might be useful if you could have someone move the gearshift lever
while you observe the resulting motion from under the car.
"Psycho" <psycho@tbcia.net> wrote in message
news:cs20n1ts2fohibi21urihcvfhab91dctsa@4ax.com...
That's actually the part I didn't replace. Problem I have now is I
can't get it into reverse at all and where it feels like it's in 1st
and 2nd, there's no gear.
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I'll be putting the car in the air this afternoon and checking this
out. Still can't select reverse and 1st and 2nd seem to shift but
there's nothing there. Hopefully it's just a linkage issue... |
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Psycho
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Fri Nov 18, 2005 4:03 am Post subject:
Re: 87 325is shifter |
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On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 16:55:18 -0600, Lemuel Johnson
<lemuel@nono.ibm.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Psycho wrote:
Here's the latest problem. I rebuilt the entire shifter short of the
piece that actually connects the linkage to the tranny itself.
Shifting action wasn't exactly what I had hoped for but it worked way
better then before. One problem was that to find reverse it almost
seemed like you had to crank the shifter almost into the drivers seat.
Now, I can't find reverse at all and 1st and 2nd gear don't seem to
engage either. I'll be checking the linkage tomorrow but I figured I'd
throw a message in here to see what suggestions I got back. Thanks in
advance for any ideas you may have to offer...
On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 10:30:32 +0100, John Burns
john@unixnerd.demon.co.uk> wrote:
I just finished rebuilding the shifter on an 87 325is and I'm not
sure the action is what I expected. I replaced all of the bushings
including the front and rear bushings on the aluminum mount bar that
goes from the top of the tranny to the body. I guess I expected the
shift pattern to be very defined after the rebuild. What I got was
less play but I am missing the defined gear locations I expected. Is
this normal?
I had new bushings put in my E30 and it shifts really nicely. It's kind
of hard to say without using your shifter though!
Did you replace part number 13 in the drawing:
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=1113&mospid=47309&btnr=25_0074&hg=25&fg=05
Replacing that "joint" firmed up my shifting action quite a bit.
Lemuel Johnson
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This little sucker is just flopping all over the place. The drawing
shows a plastic washer (#19) inside the shift joint (#13). Any idea
what that's all about? I'm assuming the one in this car is gone as it
looks as though it would stiffen it up. Anyhow, I'll drop the
driveshaft in the morning and pop that little bastard out of there.
Since I already know that the entire piece comes as one unit, I'll be
replacing it... |
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Psycho
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Thu Nov 24, 2005 4:09 am Post subject:
Re: 87 325is shifter |
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Update, I have now replaced the entire shift linkage and still can't
get the tranny into reverse. Also, the tranny acts like it's going
into first and second but the gears don't engage anything. I'm going
to guess at this point that I bent a shift fork while fighting the
shifter. Just my luck. Question now is, do I get another tranny or fix
this one?
On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 22:03:26 GMT, Psycho <psycho@tbcia.net> wrote:
| Quote: | On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 16:55:18 -0600, Lemuel Johnson
lemuel@nono.ibm.com> wrote:
Psycho wrote:
Here's the latest problem. I rebuilt the entire shifter short of the
piece that actually connects the linkage to the tranny itself.
Shifting action wasn't exactly what I had hoped for but it worked way
better then before. One problem was that to find reverse it almost
seemed like you had to crank the shifter almost into the drivers seat.
Now, I can't find reverse at all and 1st and 2nd gear don't seem to
engage either. I'll be checking the linkage tomorrow but I figured I'd
throw a message in here to see what suggestions I got back. Thanks in
advance for any ideas you may have to offer...
On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 10:30:32 +0100, John Burns
john@unixnerd.demon.co.uk> wrote:
I just finished rebuilding the shifter on an 87 325is and I'm not
sure the action is what I expected. I replaced all of the bushings
including the front and rear bushings on the aluminum mount bar that
goes from the top of the tranny to the body. I guess I expected the
shift pattern to be very defined after the rebuild. What I got was
less play but I am missing the defined gear locations I expected. Is
this normal?
I had new bushings put in my E30 and it shifts really nicely. It's kind
of hard to say without using your shifter though!
Did you replace part number 13 in the drawing:
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=1113&mospid=47309&btnr=25_0074&hg=25&fg=05
Replacing that "joint" firmed up my shifting action quite a bit.
Lemuel Johnson
This little sucker is just flopping all over the place. The drawing
shows a plastic washer (#19) inside the shift joint (#13). Any idea
what that's all about? I'm assuming the one in this car is gone as it
looks as though it would stiffen it up. Anyhow, I'll drop the
driveshaft in the morning and pop that little bastard out of there.
Since I already know that the entire piece comes as one unit, I'll be
replacing it... |
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keith
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Thu Nov 24, 2005 6:44 am Post subject:
Re: 87 325is shifter |
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Psycho <psycho@tbcia.net> wrote:
| Quote: | Update, I have now replaced the entire shift linkage and still can't
get the tranny into reverse. Also, the tranny acts like it's going
into first and second but the gears don't engage anything. I'm going
to guess at this point that I bent a shift fork while fighting the
shifter. Just my luck. Question now is, do I get another tranny or fix
this one?
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fix the one you have. that way you wont be buying what could be
trouble.. these tansmissions are getting old now. |
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Psycho
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Fri Dec 09, 2005 3:51 am Post subject:
Re: 87 325is shifter |
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On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 00:44:11 GMT, here@earth.net (keith) wrote:
| Quote: | Psycho <psycho@tbcia.net> wrote:
Update, I have now replaced the entire shift linkage and still can't
get the tranny into reverse. Also, the tranny acts like it's going
into first and second but the gears don't engage anything. I'm going
to guess at this point that I bent a shift fork while fighting the
shifter. Just my luck. Question now is, do I get another tranny or fix
this one?
-snip
fix the one you have. that way you wont be buying what could be
trouble.. these tansmissions are getting old now.
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Alrighty then, getting ready to pop this sucker open. Anyone else
had a Getrag 260 apart? Any suggestions as to a source of parts?
Output shaft nut was a pain in the ass to get off, tomorrow I'll
remove the rest of the bolts and peek inside...
I'm hoping to hear from any of you who've worked in these before... |
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