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Patrick Siegrist
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 10:35 pm    Post subject: HELP!!! Shooting for 300,000 miles but '85 Celica getting cr Reply with quote

I'm having trouble with my '85 Celica. The condition of the car is now
to the point of me having to make a major decision whenever anything
costing over $25 goes wrong with it.

Lately it hasn't been wanting to start. It'll pop off right away, but
then die immediately. It will do this several times. Start and die,
start and die. If you pump the throttle a little (it's fuel injected and
I know you're not supposed to do that) it eventually starts. Depending
how cold it is outside. Which leads me to this suspicion: It ain't
getting any gas right away.

Yesterday it was down to about 25 degrees and here's what happened.
Engine only cranked and didn't try to start. Came back 5 or 10 minutes
later and tried it again. Car started and died immediately (a couple of
times). Waited 5 or 10 more minutes and tried again. Car immediately
started without any footfeed action.

Once the car starts, it always runs great. I don't think it's the fuel
pump (that may be too expensive anyway). So far I've put on a new fuel
filter, changed out the cold start injector with one from the junkyard,
and changed spark plugs and wires (coil wire too).

I bought this car new and I'd like to get 23,000 more miles out of it,
so if anyone can help it would be GREATLY appreciated.

Thanks,
Pat

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Ray O
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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 12:06 am    Post subject: Re: HELP!!! Shooting for 300,000 miles but '85 Celica gettin Reply with quote

"Patrick Siegrist" <patdon@iowatelecom.net> wrote in message
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I'm having trouble with my '85 Celica. The condition of the car is now to
the point of me having to make a major decision whenever anything costing
over $25 goes wrong with it.

Lately it hasn't been wanting to start. It'll pop off right away, but then
die immediately. It will do this several times. Start and die, start and
die. If you pump the throttle a little (it's fuel injected and I know
you're not supposed to do that) it eventually starts. Depending how cold
it is outside. Which leads me to this suspicion: It ain't getting any gas
right away.

Yesterday it was down to about 25 degrees and here's what happened. Engine
only cranked and didn't try to start. Came back 5 or 10 minutes later and
tried it again. Car started and died immediately (a couple of times).
Waited 5 or 10 more minutes and tried again. Car immediately started
without any footfeed action.

Once the car starts, it always runs great. I don't think it's the fuel
pump (that may be too expensive anyway). So far I've put on a new fuel
filter, changed out the cold start injector with one from the junkyard,
and changed spark plugs and wires (coil wire too).

I bought this car new and I'd like to get 23,000 more miles out of it, so
if anyone can help it would be GREATLY appreciated.

Thanks,
Pat


Could be the cold start injector timer, temp sensor, or fouled injector.

Fuel injector cleaner is probably the cheapest thing to try.
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HachiRoku
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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 5:42 am    Post subject: Re: HELP!!! Shooting for 300,000 miles but '85 Celica gettin Reply with quote

On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 13:06:24 -0600, Ray O wrote:

Quote:

"Patrick Siegrist" <patdon@iowatelecom.net> wrote in message
news:cp7dno$5m8$1@news.netins.net...
I'm having trouble with my '85 Celica. The condition of the car is now to
the point of me having to make a major decision whenever anything costing
over $25 goes wrong with it.

Lately it hasn't been wanting to start. It'll pop off right away, but then
die immediately. It will do this several times. Start and die, start and
die. If you pump the throttle a little (it's fuel injected and I know
you're not supposed to do that) it eventually starts. Depending how cold
it is outside. Which leads me to this suspicion: It ain't getting any gas
right away.

Yesterday it was down to about 25 degrees and here's what happened. Engine
only cranked and didn't try to start. Came back 5 or 10 minutes later and
tried it again. Car started and died immediately (a couple of times).
Waited 5 or 10 more minutes and tried again. Car immediately started
without any footfeed action.

Once the car starts, it always runs great. I don't think it's the fuel
pump (that may be too expensive anyway). So far I've put on a new fuel
filter, changed out the cold start injector with one from the junkyard,
and changed spark plugs and wires (coil wire too).

I bought this car new and I'd like to get 23,000 more miles out of it, so
if anyone can help it would be GREATLY appreciated.

Thanks,
Pat


Could be the cold start injector timer, temp sensor, or fouled injector.
Fuel injector cleaner is probably the cheapest thing to try.

I'm having almost the same problem with MY '85 Celica, but I just changed
the engine.

I also have about 5.5 qts of oil in it! For some reason, the proper amount
(4.5 qts) doesn't even show on the dipstick!

At any rate, I believe my hard starting problems are a combination of too
much oil and a bad cold start injector, although I believe it is the same
injector that was on the engine originally, and never gave me startign
problems before.

I'm wondering what weight oil is being used. Too heavy will cause these
problems. I plan on draining my crankcase and refilling shortly.

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