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Gord Beaman
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Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 5:42 am    Post subject: Re: CAT Miracle! Reply with quote

"Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote:

Quote:


diel@spim.com wrote:
In article <RiPtd.6008$Ya4.451@edtnps84>,
"probono" <forthepubic@good.com> wrote:

snip

While I like most animals, I've always had cats as pets. I like
their independent natures. THEY choose when to be affectionate.
THEY choose. Period. Insecure males or females can't stand this.

They choose is an understatement. It almost seems like they are
playing with the owners mind sometimes.

That's what happens when you ascribe human thought processes and emotions to
a domesticated predator. Duh!

Or when a human cannot recognize and extrapolate an intelligent
animal's thought processes and see the occasional similarities
between them and humans perhaps? hummm?
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-Gord.
(use gordon in email)

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Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 5:26 pm    Post subject: Re: CAT Miracle! Reply with quote

In article <rluud.1672$Sp3.768@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote:

Quote:
diel@spim.com> wrote in message
news:diel-9C86D3.11231010122004@zeus-ge0.rdc-kc.rr.com...
In article <oj6ud.579$Sp3.78@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote:

diel@spim.com wrote:
In article <3e-dnYPIVJmBwCXcRVn-2A@magma.ca>,
Dan Gates <drgates@magma.ca> wrote:

Philip wrote:
Dan Gates wrote:

Philip wrote:

diel@spim.com wrote:


You should never feed your cat table scraps. Dry cat food is
best. Be
sure your cat has plenty of fresh clean water too.


RUBBISH. All dry food diet is what makes for constipation,
bloating, overweight, and rectal bleeding from straining to have
BMs. What you should not do to a cat that is on dry cereal
diet is suddenly
change the diet during the holidays to real food from your
dinner table. I've had several cats in my life that lived into
their early
twenties on 'real food.' Sorry if that blows your belief system.


The key word here, from my wife the veterinarian, is "scraps".
ie
if you wouldn't eat it, neither should you feed it to your cat.
Also, cats need raw meat, or get some kind of essential nutrient
supplement (I forget which)

Dan


RUBBISH. My reason for bringing home leftovers from restaurant
meals is that I don't eat such large portions at a single
sitting. Your wife's assertion is a bit quacky around the edges.
She is also one who projects her
ways onto others ... including you. LOL The likely nutrient you
are searching for is taurine. The following makes my point about
FRESH food (canned and dry has to have this amino acid added in
to the formula by law).

http://www.petcaretips.net/cat_taurine.html
In the wild, rodents formed a large part of the feline diet, and
the rodents
had significant levels of taurine in their brains.

I have to trust legislation and puss's willingness to eat
sufficient commercial food to get his allowance of taurine. I'm
not going to 'mouse' for him at me age! Makes ya wonder though
.. if Liberals have a deficiency of this amino acid.

http://www.darkdog.com/whatistaurine.html



Read my whole post, slowly, now read it again. "SCRAPS" are not
good.
I didn't say anything about "leftovers". If you can't clear an
american restaurant sized plate (and very few should!), and you
bring home stuff
that you would normally eat if you wanted to be 300lbs, then OK,
feed it
to your cat. It is much better quality raw ingredients than what
goes
into the cat food bag or can. Lots of people feed their pets
"scraps"
which is the stuff that is not fit to feed your family, you
shouldn't
feed that to your pets either.

Dan

we spice up our foods quite a bit, plus we eat a lot of veggies.
Our
cat would sniff it and walk away.

You JUST MADE MY POINT. You are trying to force your eating habits on a
specialized preditor. "plus, WE eat a lot of veggies."

Yes and I said the cat would sniff sniff it and walk away. What did I
say not correct here?
--

Nevermind. Did you at least feel the breeze pass over your head?

what breeze?
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 5:26 pm    Post subject: Re: CAT Miracle! Reply with quote

diel@spim.com wrote:
|| In article <5N6ud.192$xw1.15@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
|| "Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote:
||
||| Bruce L. Bergman wrote:
|||| On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 23:27:13 GMT, <diel@spim.com> wrote:
||||
||| snip
|||| If I was driving a truck for a living, and it wouldn't bankrupt me
|||| (as in it's a corporate truck, no money worries) I'd run fresh
|||| tires on all axles. But it probably would kill a loner, the profit
|||| margins
|||| for independent owner-operators are shaved razor thin.
||||
|||| --<< Bruce >>--
|||
||| The 'round' price I posted is for recaps. 22.5 and 24.5 sizes are
||| common on semis. Only the steer axle tires must be new. I can
||| tell already you would not be in business for long if you intended
||| to run all new tires. Recaps are ONE of the reasons truck fleets
||| limit their speed to 62 mph with the governor. If you insist on
||| running with the Big Dogs, going faster costs a lot more in tire
||| wear (amoug other things).
|||
||| - Philip
||
|| Another question for truck drivers. How do you manage to stay awake
|| on thhose long runs and all night driving?
|| --

Bennies.

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Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 10:56 am    Post subject: Re: CAT Miracle! Reply with quote

probono wrote:
Quote:
diel@spim.com wrote:
In article <5N6ud.192$xw1.15@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote:

Bruce L. Bergman wrote:
On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 23:27:13 GMT, <diel@spim.com> wrote:

snip
If I was driving a truck for a living, and it wouldn't
bankrupt me (as in it's a corporate truck, no money worries)
I'd run fresh tires on all axles. But it probably would kill a
loner, the profit margins
for independent owner-operators are shaved razor thin.

--<< Bruce >>--

The 'round' price I posted is for recaps. 22.5 and 24.5 sizes
are common on semis. Only the steer axle tires must be new. I
can tell already you would not be in business for long if you
intended to run all new tires. Recaps are ONE of the reasons
truck fleets limit their speed to 62 mph with the governor. If
you insist on running with the Big Dogs, going faster costs a
lot more in tire wear (amoug other things).

- Philip

Another question for truck drivers. How do you manage to stay
awake on thhose long runs and all night driving?
--

Bennies.

Try that shit when you're a company driver these days and you're going to be
taking time off without pay when ... not if ... your caught. Get caught
with any traceable, controlled substances in your system in the HOURS after
an accident and you'll be out of a job and get a BIG nasty note in your
driving record that is kept by a private driver record keeping service in
Oklahoma.

--

- Philip
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iameveryman
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Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 12:20 pm    Post subject: Re: CAT Miracle! Reply with quote

Philip wrote:
|| probono wrote:
||| diel@spim.com wrote:
||||| In article <5N6ud.192$xw1.15@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
||||| "Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote:
|||||
|||||| Bruce L. Bergman wrote:
||||||| On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 23:27:13 GMT, <diel@spim.com> wrote:
|||||||
|||||| snip
||||||| If I was driving a truck for a living, and it wouldn't
||||||| bankrupt me (as in it's a corporate truck, no money worries)
||||||| I'd run fresh tires on all axles. But it probably would kill a
||||||| loner, the profit margins
||||||| for independent owner-operators are shaved razor thin.
|||||||
||||||| --<< Bruce >>--
||||||
|||||| The 'round' price I posted is for recaps. 22.5 and 24.5 sizes
|||||| are common on semis. Only the steer axle tires must be new. I
|||||| can tell already you would not be in business for long if you
|||||| intended to run all new tires. Recaps are ONE of the reasons
|||||| truck fleets limit their speed to 62 mph with the governor. If
|||||| you insist on running with the Big Dogs, going faster costs a
|||||| lot more in tire wear (amoug other things).
||||||
|||||| - Philip
|||||
||||| Another question for truck drivers. How do you manage to stay
||||| awake on thhose long runs and all night driving?
||||| --
|||
||| Bennies.
||
|| Try that shit when you're a company driver these days and you're
|| going to be taking time off without pay when ... not if ... your
|| caught. Get caught with any traceable, controlled substances in
|| your system in the HOURS after an accident and you'll be out of a
|| job and get a BIG nasty note in your driving record that is kept by
|| a private driver record keeping service in Oklahoma.

Agreed. However it used to be par for the course.


||
|| --
||
|| - Philip
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Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 9:46 pm    Post subject: Re: CAT Miracle! Reply with quote

"iameveryman" <everywhere@universe.com> wrote in message
news:tpbvd.64438$6f6.37498@edtnps89
Quote:
Philip wrote:
probono wrote:
diel@spim.com wrote:

Another question for truck drivers. How do you manage to stay
awake on thhose long runs and all night driving?
--

Bennies.

Try that shit when you're a company driver these days and you're
going to be taking time off without pay when ... not if ... your
caught. Get caught with any traceable, controlled substances in
your system in the HOURS after an accident and you'll be out of a
job and get a BIG nasty note in your driving record that is kept
by a private driver record keeping service in Oklahoma.
--
- Philip

Agreed. However it used to be par for the course.


Housewives that stayed home to raise the kids used to be par for the course
too.
--

- Philip
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iameveryman
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Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 1:29 am    Post subject: Re: CAT Miracle! Reply with quote

Philip wrote:
|| "iameveryman" <everywhere@universe.com> wrote in message
|| news:tpbvd.64438$6f6.37498@edtnps89
||| Philip wrote:
||||| probono wrote:
|||||| diel@spim.com wrote:
||||||||
|||||||| Another question for truck drivers. How do you manage to stay
|||||||| awake on thhose long runs and all night driving?
|||||||| --
||||||
|||||| Bennies.
|||||
||||| Try that shit when you're a company driver these days and you're
||||| going to be taking time off without pay when ... not if ... your
||||| caught. Get caught with any traceable, controlled substances in
||||| your system in the HOURS after an accident and you'll be out of a
||||| job and get a BIG nasty note in your driving record that is kept
||||| by a private driver record keeping service in Oklahoma.
||||| --
||||| - Philip
|||
||| Agreed. However it used to be par for the course.
|||
||
|| Housewives that stayed home to raise the kids used to be par for the
|| course too.

Now they spend most of their income to support that choice..daycare,
transportation, extra clothes, lunches, etc.. A step BACKWARDS, I say.


|| --
||
|| - Philip
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Coyoteboy
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 11:27 pm    Post subject: Re: CAT Miracle! Reply with quote

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is ok but contains much more fat and the cat will gain weight. So keep
it on dry food and it will live a long time. Our last one lived to 17
years on DRY food before giving in to kidney failure.

All our cats lived on a mixture of wet and dry food, of whichever brand they
prefered that week (they always changed their minds constantly). None were
overweight, the oldest died aged 24. None had health problems. All had fresh
water :D And the pond water outside when they were out there lol.

J
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