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Philip
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Fri Dec 10, 2004 6:15 am Post subject:
Re: CAT Miracle! |
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Bruce L. Bergman wrote:
| Quote: | On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 23:27:13 GMT, <diel@spim.com> wrote:
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If I was driving a truck for a living, and it wouldn't bankrupt me
(as in it's a corporate truck, no money worries) I'd run fresh tires
on all axles. But it probably would kill a loner, the profit
margins
for independent owner-operators are shaved razor thin.
--<< Bruce >>--
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The 'round' price I posted is for recaps. 22.5 and 24.5 sizes are common on
semis. Only the steer axle tires must be new. I can tell already you would
not be in business for long if you intended to run all new tires. Recaps
are ONE of the reasons truck fleets limit their speed to 62 mph with the
governor. If you insist on running with the Big Dogs, going faster costs a
lot more in tire wear (amoug other things).
- Philip
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Dan Gates
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Fri Dec 10, 2004 9:15 pm Post subject:
Re: CAT Miracle! |
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Philip wrote:
| Quote: | Dan Gates wrote:
WickeddollŽ wrote:
OK - I don't have anything to add about cat care, but I'm just
amazed to see so many guys talking about cats. There's a message
board for Alberta Watson("Madeline" on the TV series "La Femme
Nikita", and now a semi-regular on "24), who herself is a cat fan.
On that board we talk about her work, but we talk more about pets
than anything. My point? I think it's great that a group of
probably all straight men feel comfortable talking about cats. That was a
taboo for men in years past, as cats were felt to be
'feminine'. I hear cats have always been the favored pet in Great
Britain, regardless of the owner's gender, but American men seemed
to have particular hostility toward cats until recently. (At
least the ones I've met) I'm glad that's changed!
Natalie
You are making some big assumptions Natalie! You haven't met Philip
have you. And he claims he spent a lot of time away from his
"wife".
))
Dan
When Dannyboy can't win, he goes for the cheap shots. Pity.
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If you can't take a joke . . . .
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Philip
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Fri Dec 10, 2004 9:47 pm Post subject:
Re: CAT Miracle! |
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Dan Gates wrote:
| Quote: | Philip wrote:
Dan Gates wrote:
WickeddollŽ wrote:
OK - I don't have anything to add about cat care, but I'm just
amazed to see so many guys talking about cats. There's a message
board for Alberta Watson("Madeline" on the TV series "La Femme
Nikita", and now a semi-regular on "24), who herself is a cat
fan. On that board we talk about her work, but we talk more about pets
than anything. My point? I think it's great that a group of
probably all straight men feel comfortable talking about cats.
That was a taboo for men in years past, as cats were felt to be
'feminine'. I hear cats have always been the favored pet in
Great Britain, regardless of the owner's gender, but American
men seemed to have particular hostility toward cats until recently.
(At
least the ones I've met) I'm glad that's changed!
Natalie
You are making some big assumptions Natalie! You haven't met
Philip have you. And he claims he spent a lot of time away from his
"wife".
))
Dan
When Dannyboy can't win, he goes for the cheap shots. Pity.
If you can't take a joke . . . .
Dan
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I've been putting you with you for awhile...
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Philip
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Fri Dec 10, 2004 9:52 pm Post subject:
Re: CAT Miracle! |
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Dan Gates wrote:
| Quote: | Philip wrote:
Dan Gates wrote:
WickeddollŽ wrote:
OK - I don't have anything to add about cat care, but I'm just
amazed to see so many guys talking about cats. There's a message
board for Alberta Watson("Madeline" on the TV series "La Femme
Nikita", and now a semi-regular on "24), who herself is a cat
fan. On that board we talk about her work, but we talk more about pets
than anything. My point? I think it's great that a group of
probably all straight men feel comfortable talking about cats.
That was a taboo for men in years past, as cats were felt to be
'feminine'. I hear cats have always been the favored pet in
Great Britain, regardless of the owner's gender, but American
men seemed to have particular hostility toward cats until recently.
(At
least the ones I've met) I'm glad that's changed!
Natalie
You are making some big assumptions Natalie! You haven't met
Philip have you. And he claims he spent a lot of time away from his
"wife".
))
Dan
When Dannyboy can't win, he goes for the cheap shots. Pity.
If you can't take a joke . . . .
Dan
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Can you?
http://www.thestatenislandboys.com/All_da_Crap_is_here/Sony%20Pic%20Taking.swf
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- Philip |
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Dan Gates
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Fri Dec 10, 2004 9:56 pm Post subject:
Re: CAT Miracle! |
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Philip wrote:
| Quote: | Dan Gates wrote:
Philip wrote:
Dan Gates wrote:
WickeddollŽ wrote:
OK - I don't have anything to add about cat care, but I'm just
amazed to see so many guys talking about cats. There's a message
board for Alberta Watson("Madeline" on the TV series "La Femme
Nikita", and now a semi-regular on "24), who herself is a cat
fan. On that board we talk about her work, but we talk more about pets
than anything. My point? I think it's great that a group of
probably all straight men feel comfortable talking about cats.
That was a taboo for men in years past, as cats were felt to be
'feminine'. I hear cats have always been the favored pet in
Great Britain, regardless of the owner's gender, but American
men seemed to have particular hostility toward cats until recently.
(At
least the ones I've met) I'm glad that's changed!
Natalie
You are making some big assumptions Natalie! You haven't met
Philip have you. And he claims he spent a lot of time away from his
"wife".
))
Dan
When Dannyboy can't win, he goes for the cheap shots. Pity.
If you can't take a joke . . . .
Dan
Can you?
http://www.thestatenislandboys.com/All_da_Crap_is_here/Sony%20Pic%20Taking.swf
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Yes I can, but I'm told I'm handscomer than that!!
|>))
Dan |
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Dan Gates
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Fri Dec 10, 2004 9:57 pm Post subject:
Re: CAT Miracle! |
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Philip wrote:
| Quote: | Dan Gates wrote:
Philip wrote:
Dan Gates wrote:
WickeddollŽ wrote:
OK - I don't have anything to add about cat care, but I'm just
amazed to see so many guys talking about cats. There's a message
board for Alberta Watson("Madeline" on the TV series "La Femme
Nikita", and now a semi-regular on "24), who herself is a cat
fan. On that board we talk about her work, but we talk more about pets
than anything. My point? I think it's great that a group of
probably all straight men feel comfortable talking about cats.
That was a taboo for men in years past, as cats were felt to be
'feminine'. I hear cats have always been the favored pet in
Great Britain, regardless of the owner's gender, but American
men seemed to have particular hostility toward cats until recently.
(At
least the ones I've met) I'm glad that's changed!
Natalie
You are making some big assumptions Natalie! You haven't met
Philip have you. And he claims he spent a lot of time away from his
"wife".
))
Dan
When Dannyboy can't win, he goes for the cheap shots. Pity.
If you can't take a joke . . . .
Dan
I've been putting you with you for awhile...
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But I've been putting me with me for longer!!!
Dan |
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Philip
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Fri Dec 10, 2004 10:01 pm Post subject:
Re: CAT Miracle! |
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Dan Gates wrote:
| Quote: | Philip wrote:
Dan Gates wrote:
Philip wrote:
Dan Gates wrote:
WickeddollŽ wrote:
OK - I don't have anything to add about cat care, but I'm just
amazed to see so many guys talking about cats. There's a
message board for Alberta Watson("Madeline" on the TV series "La
Femme
Nikita", and now a semi-regular on "24), who herself is a cat
fan. On that board we talk about her work, but we talk more
about pets than anything. My point? I think it's great that
a group of probably all straight men feel comfortable talking about
cats.
That was a taboo for men in years past, as cats were felt to be
'feminine'. I hear cats have always been the favored pet in
Great Britain, regardless of the owner's gender, but American
men seemed to have particular hostility toward cats until
recently. (At
least the ones I've met) I'm glad that's changed!
Natalie
You are making some big assumptions Natalie! You haven't met
Philip have you. And he claims he spent a lot of time away
from his "wife".
))
Dan
When Dannyboy can't win, he goes for the cheap shots. Pity.
If you can't take a joke . . . .
Dan
Can you?
http://www.thestatenislandboys.com/All_da_Crap_is_here/Sony%20Pic%20Taking.swf
Yes I can, but I'm told I'm handscomer than that!!
))
Dan
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Philip
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Fri Dec 10, 2004 10:01 pm Post subject:
Re: CAT Miracle! |
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Dan Gates wrote:
| Quote: | Philip wrote:
Dan Gates wrote:
Philip wrote:
Dan Gates wrote:
WickeddollŽ wrote:
OK - I don't have anything to add about cat care, but I'm just
amazed to see so many guys talking about cats. There's a
message board for Alberta Watson("Madeline" on the TV series
"La Femme Nikita", and now a semi-regular on "24), who herself
is a cat fan. On that board we talk about her work, but we talk more
about pets than anything. My point? I think it's great that
a group of probably all straight men feel comfortable talking
about cats. That was a taboo for men in years past, as cats were felt
to be
'feminine'. I hear cats have always been the favored pet in
Great Britain, regardless of the owner's gender, but American
men seemed to have particular hostility toward cats until
recently. (At
least the ones I've met) I'm glad that's changed!
Natalie
You are making some big assumptions Natalie! You haven't met
Philip have you. And he claims he spent a lot of time away
from his "wife".
))
Dan
When Dannyboy can't win, he goes for the cheap shots. Pity.
If you can't take a joke . . . .
Dan
I've been putting (up) with you for awhile...
But I've been putting me with me for longer!!!
Dan
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That proofreader position is still open. LOL |
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Fri Dec 10, 2004 10:15 pm Post subject:
Re: CAT Miracle! |
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In article <nj6ud.577$Sp3.158@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote:
| Quote: | diel@spim.com wrote:
In article <A3Qtd.11879$714.10304@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote:
It has long ago been proven in humans that infections from gums
can transmit though the blood to the heart valves and cause
problems. Cats, being mammals, are no different..in this regard.
We have agreement. Ever wonder why dentists have the highest
mortality rates in the medical profession?
Dentists have bad backs otherwise mortality rates are the same as
general population. Show me otherwise.
Ok:
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/010420.html
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I thought you were talking about mortality rates in the medical
profession. The article deals with suicide rates among all jobs. Not
the same. Anyway we're now off topic again. This is supposed to be
about cats.
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Fri Dec 10, 2004 10:16 pm Post subject:
Re: CAT Miracle! |
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In article <oj6ud.579$Sp3.78@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote:
| Quote: | diel@spim.com wrote:
In article <3e-dnYPIVJmBwCXcRVn-2A@magma.ca>,
Dan Gates <drgates@magma.ca> wrote:
Philip wrote:
Dan Gates wrote:
Philip wrote:
diel@spim.com wrote:
You should never feed your cat table scraps. Dry cat food is
best. Be
sure your cat has plenty of fresh clean water too.
RUBBISH. All dry food diet is what makes for constipation,
bloating, overweight, and rectal bleeding from straining to have
BMs. What you should not do to a cat that is on dry cereal
diet is suddenly
change the diet during the holidays to real food from your
dinner table. I've had several cats in my life that lived into
their early
twenties on 'real food.' Sorry if that blows your belief system.
The key word here, from my wife the veterinarian, is "scraps".
ie
if you wouldn't eat it, neither should you feed it to your cat.
Also, cats need raw meat, or get some kind of essential nutrient
supplement (I forget which)
Dan
RUBBISH. My reason for bringing home leftovers from restaurant
meals is that I don't eat such large portions at a single
sitting. Your wife's assertion is a bit quacky around the edges.
She is also one who projects her
ways onto others ... including you. LOL The likely nutrient you
are searching for is taurine. The following makes my point about
FRESH food (canned and dry has to have this amino acid added in
to the formula by law).
http://www.petcaretips.net/cat_taurine.html
In the wild, rodents formed a large part of the feline diet, and
the rodents
had significant levels of taurine in their brains.
I have to trust legislation and puss's willingness to eat
sufficient commercial food to get his allowance of taurine. I'm
not going to 'mouse' for him at me age! Makes ya wonder though
.. if Liberals have a deficiency of this amino acid.
http://www.darkdog.com/whatistaurine.html
Read my whole post, slowly, now read it again. "SCRAPS" are not
good.
I didn't say anything about "leftovers". If you can't clear an
american restaurant sized plate (and very few should!), and you
bring home stuff
that you would normally eat if you wanted to be 300lbs, then OK,
feed it
to your cat. It is much better quality raw ingredients than what
goes
into the cat food bag or can. Lots of people feed their pets
"scraps"
which is the stuff that is not fit to feed your family, you
shouldn't
feed that to your pets either.
Dan
we spice up our foods quite a bit, plus we eat a lot of veggies.
Our
cat would sniff it and walk away.
You JUST MADE MY POINT. You are trying to force your eating habits on a
specialized preditor. "plus, WE eat a lot of veggies."
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Yes and I said the cat would sniff sniff it and walk away. What did I
say not correct here?
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Fri Dec 10, 2004 10:24 pm Post subject:
Re: CAT Miracle! |
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In article <5N6ud.192$xw1.15@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote:
| Quote: | Bruce L. Bergman wrote:
On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 23:27:13 GMT, <diel@spim.com> wrote:
snip
If I was driving a truck for a living, and it wouldn't bankrupt me
(as in it's a corporate truck, no money worries) I'd run fresh tires
on all axles. But it probably would kill a loner, the profit
margins
for independent owner-operators are shaved razor thin.
--<< Bruce >>--
The 'round' price I posted is for recaps. 22.5 and 24.5 sizes are common on
semis. Only the steer axle tires must be new. I can tell already you would
not be in business for long if you intended to run all new tires. Recaps
are ONE of the reasons truck fleets limit their speed to 62 mph with the
governor. If you insist on running with the Big Dogs, going faster costs a
lot more in tire wear (amoug other things).
- Philip
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Another question for truck drivers. How do you manage to stay awake on
thhose long runs and all night driving?
-- |
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Philip
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Sat Dec 11, 2004 5:42 am Post subject:
Re: CAT Miracle! |
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<diel@spim.com> wrote in message
news:diel-E5C43A.11215110122004@zeus-ge0.rdc-kc.rr.com...
| Quote: | In article <nj6ud.577$Sp3.158@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote:
diel@spim.com wrote:
In article <A3Qtd.11879$714.10304@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote:
It has long ago been proven in humans that infections from gums
can transmit though the blood to the heart valves and cause
problems. Cats, being mammals, are no different..in this regard.
We have agreement. Ever wonder why dentists have the highest
mortality rates in the medical profession?
Dentists have bad backs otherwise mortality rates are the same as
general population. Show me otherwise.
Ok:
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/010420.html
I thought you were talking about mortality rates in the medical
profession. The article deals with suicide rates among all jobs. Not
the same. Anyway we're now off topic again. This is supposed to be
about cats.
--
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No you didn't. DENTISTS were the only physicians named. Teeth cleaning by
vets was in the context of cat care.
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Philip
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Sat Dec 11, 2004 5:42 am Post subject:
Re: CAT Miracle! |
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<diel@spim.com> wrote in message
news:diel-3932B9.11305310122004@zeus-ge0.rdc-kc.rr.com...
| Quote: | In article <5N6ud.192$xw1.15@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote:
Bruce L. Bergman wrote:
On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 23:27:13 GMT, <diel@spim.com> wrote:
snip
If I was driving a truck for a living, and it wouldn't bankrupt me
(as in it's a corporate truck, no money worries) I'd run fresh tires
on all axles. But it probably would kill a loner, the profit
margins
for independent owner-operators are shaved razor thin.
--<< Bruce >>--
The 'round' price I posted is for recaps. 22.5 and 24.5 sizes are common
on
semis. Only the steer axle tires must be new. I can tell already you
would
not be in business for long if you intended to run all new tires. Recaps
are ONE of the reasons truck fleets limit their speed to 62 mph with the
governor. If you insist on running with the Big Dogs, going faster costs
a
lot more in tire wear (amoug other things).
- Philip
Another question for truck drivers. How do you manage to stay awake on
thhose long runs and all night driving?
--
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YELL at yourself
Have LOUD, stupid, conversations with other truckers traveling in the same
direction on the CB radio.
Big bucket of not so hot coffee on hand.
Roll down the windows ... get lots of air.
Drive bare foot with the cold air vents directed at your tootsies.
Sit on a piece of astro turf in you skivvies
Lower the chair so that you have to peer over the steering wheel.
Bring your wife along
Put some grunge on the stereo.
Simply give up driving between the hours of 02:30 and dawn.
etc.
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Philip
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Sat Dec 11, 2004 5:42 am Post subject:
Re: CAT Miracle! |
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<diel@spim.com> wrote in message
news:diel-9C86D3.11231010122004@zeus-ge0.rdc-kc.rr.com...
| Quote: | In article <oj6ud.579$Sp3.78@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote:
diel@spim.com wrote:
In article <3e-dnYPIVJmBwCXcRVn-2A@magma.ca>,
Dan Gates <drgates@magma.ca> wrote:
Philip wrote:
Dan Gates wrote:
Philip wrote:
diel@spim.com wrote:
You should never feed your cat table scraps. Dry cat food is
best. Be
sure your cat has plenty of fresh clean water too.
RUBBISH. All dry food diet is what makes for constipation,
bloating, overweight, and rectal bleeding from straining to have
BMs. What you should not do to a cat that is on dry cereal
diet is suddenly
change the diet during the holidays to real food from your
dinner table. I've had several cats in my life that lived into
their early
twenties on 'real food.' Sorry if that blows your belief system.
The key word here, from my wife the veterinarian, is "scraps".
ie
if you wouldn't eat it, neither should you feed it to your cat.
Also, cats need raw meat, or get some kind of essential nutrient
supplement (I forget which)
Dan
RUBBISH. My reason for bringing home leftovers from restaurant
meals is that I don't eat such large portions at a single
sitting. Your wife's assertion is a bit quacky around the edges.
She is also one who projects her
ways onto others ... including you. LOL The likely nutrient you
are searching for is taurine. The following makes my point about
FRESH food (canned and dry has to have this amino acid added in
to the formula by law).
http://www.petcaretips.net/cat_taurine.html
In the wild, rodents formed a large part of the feline diet, and
the rodents
had significant levels of taurine in their brains.
I have to trust legislation and puss's willingness to eat
sufficient commercial food to get his allowance of taurine. I'm
not going to 'mouse' for him at me age! Makes ya wonder though
.. if Liberals have a deficiency of this amino acid.
http://www.darkdog.com/whatistaurine.html
Read my whole post, slowly, now read it again. "SCRAPS" are not
good.
I didn't say anything about "leftovers". If you can't clear an
american restaurant sized plate (and very few should!), and you
bring home stuff
that you would normally eat if you wanted to be 300lbs, then OK,
feed it
to your cat. It is much better quality raw ingredients than what
goes
into the cat food bag or can. Lots of people feed their pets
"scraps"
which is the stuff that is not fit to feed your family, you
shouldn't
feed that to your pets either.
Dan
we spice up our foods quite a bit, plus we eat a lot of veggies.
Our
cat would sniff it and walk away.
You JUST MADE MY POINT. You are trying to force your eating habits on a
specialized preditor. "plus, WE eat a lot of veggies."
Yes and I said the cat would sniff sniff it and walk away. What did I
say not correct here?
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Gord Beaman
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Sat Dec 11, 2004 5:42 am Post subject:
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"Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote:
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snip
We have agreement. Ever wonder why dentists have the highest
mortality rates in the medical profession?
Suicide?
Dan
Suicide is a factor that increases mortality. But you know that ... now.
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Yes...and death seems to have the same effect...
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