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Gord Beaman
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Fri Dec 10, 2004 1:43 am Post subject:
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DustyRhoades@mailcity.com wrote:
| Quote: | After God made Eve, as a partner of Adam, he asked Adam how he
liked the sex thing. Adam said, great. God asked Adam how Eve
like it and Adam said; I don't know, ask her. God asked, where
is she and Adam said down at the creek washing. God said I wish
she would not have done that, the smell will get into the fish.
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Not bad and it reminds me:
So God leaned down from the heavens and spake to Adam and Eve
saying "Go ye forth, into the bushes, and procreate". Adam
shouted up "God, what's procreate"? God hen leaned down and
whispered into Adam's ear "#$%^&*&, know what I mean"? <nudge
nudge wink wink>. Adam says "Roger Dodger!" and grabbing Eve's
hand he whisked her into the bushes...two seconds later he parted
the bushes and shouted up "God, what's headache"?
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Fri Dec 10, 2004 3:27 am Post subject:
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Whoa, you completely missed that joke LOL
mike hunt
diel@spim.com wrote:
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In article <41B88AFB.AC1154DC@mailcity.com>, DustyRhoades@mailcity.com
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Unlike chicken after you have eaten all that you want
it it still there for the next time ;)
mike hunt
And...NEVER ever feed your pet chicken bones!!
probono wrote:
MikeHunt2@mailcity.com wrote:
|| My neighbor was going to Florida for two months and she asked me
|| if I would fed her cat while she was away. I told her it would
|| be a pleasure. The day after she left I fed it a pit bull. Bet
|| he liked cat. I hear it tastes like chicken ;)
It is PUSSY which tastes like chicken but smells like fish.
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Fri Dec 10, 2004 3:33 am Post subject:
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In retrospect if God, instead of taking a rib, had
taken a hair and made man his own pussy man would be a hell of
lot better off today. Imagine all the grief, heartache, money
saved and ever wars that might never have happened LOL
mike hunt
Gord Beaman wrote:
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DustyRhoades@mailcity.com wrote:
After God made Eve, as a partner of Adam, he asked Adam how he
liked the sex thing. Adam said, great. God asked Adam how Eve
like it and Adam said; I don't know, ask her. God asked, where
is she and Adam said down at the creek washing. God said I wish
she would not have done that, the smell will get into the fish.
;)
mike hunt
Not bad and it reminds me:
So God leaned down from the heavens and spake to Adam and Eve
saying "Go ye forth, into the bushes, and procreate". Adam
shouted up "God, what's procreate"? God hen leaned down and
whispered into Adam's ear "#$%^&*&, know what I mean"? <nudge
nudge wink wink>. Adam says "Roger Dodger!" and grabbing Eve's
hand he whisked her into the bushes...two seconds later he parted
the bushes and shouted up "God, what's headache"?
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Wickeddoll®
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Fri Dec 10, 2004 4:33 am Post subject:
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<diel@spim.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | In article <RiPtd.6008$Ya4.451@edtnps84>,
"probono" <forthepubic@good.com> wrote:
Wickeddoll® wrote:
|| OK - I don't have anything to add about cat care, but I'm just
|| amazed to see so many guys talking about cats. There's a message
|| board for Alberta Watson("Madeline" on the TV series "La Femme
|| Nikita", and now a semi-regular on "24), who herself is a cat fan.
|| On that board we talk about her work, but we talk more about pets
|| than anything. My point? I think it's great that a group of
|| probably all straight men feel comfortable talking about cats. That
|| was a taboo for men in years past, as cats were felt to be
|| 'feminine'. I hear cats have always been the favored pet in Great
|| Britain, regardless of the owner's gender, but American men seemed
|| to have particular hostility toward cats until recently. (At least
|| the ones I've met)
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|| I'm glad that's changed!
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|| Natalie
While I like most animals, I've always had cats as pets. I like their
independent natures. THEY choose when to be affectionate. THEY choose.
Period. Insecure males or females can't stand this.
They choose is an understatement. It almost seems like they are playing
with the owners mind sometimes.
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Wickeddoll®
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Fri Dec 10, 2004 4:34 am Post subject:
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"Dan Gates" <drgates@magma.ca> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Wickeddoll® wrote:
OK - I don't have anything to add about cat care, but I'm just amazed to
see so many guys talking about cats. There's a message board for Alberta
Watson("Madeline" on the TV series "La Femme Nikita", and now a
semi-regular on "24), who herself is a cat fan. On that board we talk
about her work, but we talk more about pets than anything. My point? I
think it's great that a group of probably all straight men feel
comfortable talking about cats. That was a taboo for men in years past,
as cats were felt to be 'feminine'. I hear cats have always been the
favored pet in Great Britain, regardless of the owner's gender, but
American men seemed to have particular hostility toward cats until
recently. (At least the ones I've met)
I'm glad that's changed!
Natalie
You are making some big assumptions Natalie! You haven't met Philip have
you. And he claims he spent a lot of time away from his "wife".
|>))
Dan
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I've never met him, but I've seen his posts *and* killfiled him - quite a
while ago
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Greg™
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Fri Dec 10, 2004 5:42 am Post subject:
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The original post in this thread was some of the funniest shit I've seen
on the web in a long time. You'd have to own cat(s) to truly appreciate
it I'd guess. Our 2 cats do just about everything he described in the "4
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Fri Dec 10, 2004 5:42 am Post subject:
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In article <41B8D165.C9F0BFD5@mailcity.com>, DustyRhoades@mailcity.com
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| Quote: | Whoa, you completely missed that joke LOL
mike hunt
diel@spim.com wrote:
In article <41B88AFB.AC1154DC@mailcity.com>, DustyRhoades@mailcity.com
wrote:
Unlike chicken after you have eaten all that you want
it it still there for the next time ;)
mike hunt
And...NEVER ever feed your pet chicken bones!!
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Don't you have any pet chicken bones Mike?
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probono wrote:
MikeHunt2@mailcity.com wrote:
|| My neighbor was going to Florida for two months and she asked me
|| if I would fed her cat while she was away. I told her it would
|| be a pleasure. The day after she left I fed it a pit bull. Bet
|| he liked cat. I hear it tastes like chicken ;)
It is PUSSY which tastes like chicken but smells like fish.
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Philip
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Fri Dec 10, 2004 5:44 am Post subject:
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Joseph Oberlander wrote:
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| Quote: | Vets love to recommend food in a bag/can because it
is a simple idiot-proof answer to give as most people
can't figure out how to make eggs properly, let
alone decent pet food.
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You JUST hit the nail on the head!
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Philip
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Fri Dec 10, 2004 5:44 am Post subject:
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diel@spim.com wrote:
| Quote: | In article <RiPtd.6008$Ya4.451@edtnps84>,
"probono" <forthepubic@good.com> wrote:
Wickeddoll® wrote:
OK - I don't have anything to add about cat care, but I'm just
amazed to see so many guys talking about cats. There's a message
board for Alberta Watson("Madeline" on the TV series "La Femme
Nikita", and now a semi-regular on "24), who herself is a cat
fan. On that board we talk about her work, but we talk more
about pets than anything. My point? I think it's great that a
group of probably all straight men feel comfortable talking
about cats. That was a taboo for men in years past, as cats
were felt to be 'feminine'. I hear cats have always been the
favored pet in Great Britain, regardless of the owner's gender,
but American men seemed to have particular hostility toward cats
until recently. (At least the ones I've met)
I'm glad that's changed!
Natalie
While I like most animals, I've always had cats as pets. I like
their independent natures. THEY choose when to be affectionate.
THEY choose. Period. Insecure males or females can't stand this.
They choose is an understatement. It almost seems like they are
playing with the owners mind sometimes.
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That's what happens when you ascribe human thought processes and emotions to
a domesticated predator. Duh!
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Philip
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Fri Dec 10, 2004 5:44 am Post subject:
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diel@spim.com wrote:
| Quote: | In article <A3Qtd.11879$714.10304@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote:
It has long ago been proven in humans that infections from gums
can transmit though the blood to the heart valves and cause
problems. Cats, being mammals, are no different..in this regard.
We have agreement. Ever wonder why dentists have the highest
mortality rates in the medical profession?
Dentists have bad backs otherwise mortality rates are the same as
general population. Show me otherwise.
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Ok:
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/010420.html
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Philip
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Fri Dec 10, 2004 5:44 am Post subject:
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diel@spim.com wrote:
| Quote: | In article <3e-dnYPIVJmBwCXcRVn-2A@magma.ca>,
Dan Gates <drgates@magma.ca> wrote:
Philip wrote:
Dan Gates wrote:
Philip wrote:
diel@spim.com wrote:
You should never feed your cat table scraps. Dry cat food is
best. Be
sure your cat has plenty of fresh clean water too.
RUBBISH. All dry food diet is what makes for constipation,
bloating, overweight, and rectal bleeding from straining to have
BMs. What you should not do to a cat that is on dry cereal
diet is suddenly
change the diet during the holidays to real food from your
dinner table. I've had several cats in my life that lived into
their early
twenties on 'real food.' Sorry if that blows your belief system.
The key word here, from my wife the veterinarian, is "scraps".
ie
if you wouldn't eat it, neither should you feed it to your cat.
Also, cats need raw meat, or get some kind of essential nutrient
supplement (I forget which)
Dan
RUBBISH. My reason for bringing home leftovers from restaurant
meals is that I don't eat such large portions at a single
sitting. Your wife's assertion is a bit quacky around the edges.
She is also one who projects her
ways onto others ... including you. LOL The likely nutrient you
are searching for is taurine. The following makes my point about
FRESH food (canned and dry has to have this amino acid added in
to the formula by law).
http://www.petcaretips.net/cat_taurine.html
In the wild, rodents formed a large part of the feline diet, and
the rodents
had significant levels of taurine in their brains.
I have to trust legislation and puss's willingness to eat
sufficient commercial food to get his allowance of taurine. I'm
not going to 'mouse' for him at me age! Makes ya wonder though
.. if Liberals have a deficiency of this amino acid.
http://www.darkdog.com/whatistaurine.html
Read my whole post, slowly, now read it again. "SCRAPS" are not
good.
I didn't say anything about "leftovers". If you can't clear an
american restaurant sized plate (and very few should!), and you
bring home stuff
that you would normally eat if you wanted to be 300lbs, then OK,
feed it
to your cat. It is much better quality raw ingredients than what
goes
into the cat food bag or can. Lots of people feed their pets
"scraps"
which is the stuff that is not fit to feed your family, you
shouldn't
feed that to your pets either.
Dan
we spice up our foods quite a bit, plus we eat a lot of veggies.
Our
cat would sniff it and walk away.
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You JUST MADE MY POINT. You are trying to force your eating habits on a
specialized preditor. "plus, WE eat a lot of veggies."
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Philip
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Fri Dec 10, 2004 5:44 am Post subject:
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Dan Gates wrote:
| Quote: | Philip wrote:
Dan Gates wrote:
Philip wrote:
diel@spim.com wrote:
You should never feed your cat table scraps. Dry cat food is
best. Be
sure your cat has plenty of fresh clean water too.
RUBBISH. All dry food diet is what makes for constipation,
bloating, overweight, and rectal bleeding from straining to have
BMs. What you should not do to a cat that is on dry cereal
diet is suddenly
change the diet during the holidays to real food from your
dinner table. I've had several cats in my life that lived into
their early twenties on 'real food.' Sorry if that blows your belief
system.
The key word here, from my wife the veterinarian, is "scraps". ie
if you wouldn't eat it, neither should you feed it to your cat. Also,
cats need raw meat, or get some kind of essential nutrient
supplement (I forget which)
Dan
RUBBISH. My reason for bringing home leftovers from restaurant
meals is that I don't eat such large portions at a single sitting.
Your wife's assertion is a bit quacky around the edges. She is
also one who projects her ways onto others ... including you. LOL
The likely nutrient you are searching for is taurine. The
following makes my point about FRESH food (canned and dry has to
have this amino acid added in to the formula by law).
http://www.petcaretips.net/cat_taurine.html
In the wild, rodents formed a large part of the feline diet, and
the rodents had significant levels of taurine in their brains.
I have to trust legislation and puss's willingness to eat
sufficient commercial food to get his allowance of taurine. I'm
not going to 'mouse' for him at me age! Makes ya wonder though ..
if Liberals have a deficiency of this amino acid.
http://www.darkdog.com/whatistaurine.html
Read my whole post, slowly, now read it again. "SCRAPS" are not
good. I didn't say anything about "leftovers". If you can't clear an
american restaurant sized plate (and very few should!), and you
bring home stuff that you would normally eat if you wanted to be 300lbs,
then OK,
feed it to your cat. It is much better quality raw ingredients than what
goes into the cat food bag or can. Lots of people feed their pets
"scraps" which is the stuff that is not fit to feed your family, you
shouldn't feed that to your pets either.
Dan
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It seems that all the cats I've ever owned as pets had the abilty to walk
away from "bad food" while consuming all else. Perhaps your dog will eat
your vomit and then upchuck it later
cuz that's what dogs do ... I dunno. Is the ingredient "STUPID" in your cat
food? LOL
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Philip
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Dan Gates wrote:
| Quote: | Philip wrote:
ToMh wrote:
"Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:8MItd.9011$Va5.4861@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
ToMh wrote:
"Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
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"Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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If the cat wants to eat food intended for another species ...
have at it! This isn't a massive, all-or-nothing diet change
for the rest of their lives ... just some variety. Ever wonder
why cats eat grass or the leaves off your potted philodendron in
the living room? Duh! Hell, mine drinks carrot juice! I say such
behavior is indicative of a short term diet deficiency.
So pathetic are the who people accept unquestioningly the
advice they pay for. And the more they pay, the more adamant they
are about that advice. Look at all the Science Diet, Iams, etc
sold through veterinarians. And let's not overlook the influence
of the pharmaceutical industry. How about paying $300 for your
cat's teeth cleaning? Oh, you have to leave the cat
overnight, sedation dentistry, blood panels, yada yada. If
your cat is over 7 yrs old, vets now require you sign a safety
waiver
saying that
if they KILL you pet with the sedation meds that you can't sue
them. What the hell kind of "care" is that about ... if not
the veterinarian's wallet? Bunch of BS.
--
- Philip
Amen!
I want to know who cleans the teeth of dogs, cats, and other
animals living naturally in the wild! Where do these critters
get
their crunchy food in the wild? The dog lovers will probably
have
a cow, but our dog loves some weird stuff like watermelon
rinds, the stump from the heart of lettuce or cabbage, that little
bit
you cut off of asparagus, and of course, every dog's favorite,
pizza crusts. He didn't like the large wad of wasabi that he
stole off my plate but his reaction was pretty fun to watch. --
Ray O
correct the return address punctuation to reply
Dry foods do nothing for cleaning teeth because it just
breaks apart and only makes contact with the tip. Wet foods
are worse. If you want a food that cleans the teeth you need
to feed them raw chicken (check out+ BARF diets)
or try some of the special dental foods that are designed to
not break and will wipe the surface of the whole tooth clean.
How about you trying some these dental treats on yourself and
post the results? I've never had a productive dialog with a pet over
dental hygiene and gotten a straight answer. ;-) What you say
about "special dental foods" is advertising rubbish. Better you
go on about why ostriches swallow pebbles.
I agree there is a lot of crap out there, and I have no personal
experience since my dog is on a very specific diet because of
allergies which limits greatly what he can eat, but I saw a show
on Animal Planet that
showed research and data on new dental cleansing food that is
designed to not break apart, but let's the tooth sink into it,
wiping the entire surface clean. They also showed very positive
results from feeding dogs this
food. This wiping action is what's missing when you feed canned or
dry food but occurs when an animal eats raw meat. This is hardly
rubbish.
And I wonder who funded the research and Animal Planet's showing? One can
make the argument that food chunks designed like you have
outlined would also press food down between the back teeth and the
gum line. Periodontal disease follows. Sorta like what happens
to you after woofing down a bag of microwave popcorn. So...
rubbish science. Wanna bet "dental" food is cheaper to produce,
has less food value, and can command a higher price? LOL
By the same token, who funds the research for your toothpaste and
the ADA sticker?
Dan
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When I was growing up, tooth powder was popular. But we were a bit poor so
.... baking soda is what we used. Still have all my teeth (many repared,
one root canal).
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Philip
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Dan Gates wrote:
| Quote: | Philip wrote:
"probono" <forthepubic@good.com> wrote in message
news:FgPtd.5963$Ya4.1861@edtnps84...
Philip wrote:
diel@spim.com wrote:
In article
PtEtd.10973$714.3291@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote:
Ray O wrote:
"Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Dog food is also popular with our cats!
Not a good idea. Dog food lacks certain ingredients which
cats REALLY need, like taurine.
Now I see what your problem is. You assume that the cat is
living
ONLY on dog food or ONLY on table scraps. But how
convienent for you to buy only one kind of feed.
--
- Philip
In observance of Pearl Harbor, feel free to
Zero in on a Mitsubishi driver and cut him off!
Like Philip says, our cats mostly eat cat food and only get
dog food if the dog hasn't finished it off because they're too
lazy to go down to the basement where their food is.
If the cat wants to eat food intended for another species ...
have at it! This isn't a massive, all-or-nothing diet change for
the rest of their lives ... just some variety. Ever wonder why
cats eat grass or the leaves off your potted philodendron in the
living room? Duh! Hell, mine drinks carrot juice! I say
such behavior is indicative of a short term diet deficiency.
So pathetic are the who people accept unquestioningly the
advice they pay for. And the more they pay, the more adamant they
are about that advice. Look at all the Science Diet, Iams, etc
sold through veterinarians. And let's not overlook the
influence of the pharmaceutical industry. How about paying $300 for
your
cat's teeth cleaning? Oh, you have to leave the cat
overnight, sedation dentistry, blood panels, yada yada. If
your cat is over 7 yrs old, vets now require you sign a safety
waiver saying that if
they KILL you pet with the sedation meds that you can't sue
them. What the hell kind of "care" is that about ... if not
the veterinarian's wallet? Bunch of BS.
We get Iams at the local grocery store, in the pet dept. The
teeth need cleaning because some owners feed their pets soft
food and table scraps which is not good for their health. Stick with
what's proven and your
cat will live a long fruitful life and eventually die of kidney
failure.
You're so full of BS. How is it then that vets STILL try to
sell you on teeth cleaning when your pussy is on the "all dry food"
diet? Hmmnm? --
- Philip
An all dry food diet is NO GUARANTEE of plaque/tartar free teeth.
Hallelujah! An "Ah Ha" moment.
Humans or Pets. It's very individual. I NEVER floss and have
fewer dental problems than my wife who flosses/brushes 3 times a
day!!!
As a broadly held truth, humans experience far more dental
problems than cats. People often have "soft" teeth from low
calcium or inherited weaknesses. Dental misalignment is FAR more
common in people ... which promotes food impactions between teeth
and into the gums. People are omnivores (leaning toward plant
material) but can sustain themselves on diets that are highly
detrimental to their dental hygiene. Cats are meat eaters. Just
look in a cats mouth and tell me what those teeth and lack of jaw
mobility (side to side for grinding) are for. Ain't for grinding
bananas. ;^)
People have all these problems because we don't breed against them!
We fix them as children and then they get married off, bad genetics
and all!
I've threatened to sue my father-in-law for false advertising! He
had my wife's teeth fixed and now I'm on the hook for my children's. And
the cycle will repeat itself.
Cats in the wild with bad teeth tend not to live to sexual maturity.
Cats bred by proper cat breeders (I know, where are they) are not
allowed to breed with genetic disorders.
Problems with cats teeth/gums are often OBVIOUSLY visible and it
is NOT b.s.
Sorry. Only the really involved cat owner (attempts) to pry open
a cat's mouth for a tooth inspection. Likely to get a bite! Do
you wait for your cat to yawn and then quick, snap a digital
picture? LOL By the time a cat's tooth is visibly damaged from
decay, it's time for removal. Bad breath should be a precursor
though.
It has long ago been proven in humans that infections from gums
can transmit though the blood to the heart valves and cause
problems. Cats, being mammals, are no different..in this regard.
We have agreement. Ever wonder why dentists have the highest
mortality rates in the medical profession?
Suicide?
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Suicide is a factor that increases mortality. But you know that ... now.
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Dan Gates wrote:
| Quote: | Wickeddoll® wrote:
OK - I don't have anything to add about cat care, but I'm just
amazed to see so many guys talking about cats. There's a message
board for Alberta Watson("Madeline" on the TV series "La Femme
Nikita", and now a semi-regular on "24), who herself is a cat fan.
On that board we talk about her work, but we talk more about pets
than anything. My point? I think it's great that a group of
probably all straight men feel comfortable talking about cats. That was a
taboo for men in years past, as cats were felt to be
'feminine'. I hear cats have always been the favored pet in Great
Britain, regardless of the owner's gender, but American men seemed
to have particular hostility toward cats until recently. (At
least the ones I've met) I'm glad that's changed!
Natalie
You are making some big assumptions Natalie! You haven't met Philip
have you. And he claims he spent a lot of time away from his
"wife".
))
Dan
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When Dannyboy can't win, he goes for the cheap shots. Pity.
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