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WickeddollŽ, 8/1/2005, 7:31:36 PM, wrote:
| Quote: | Natalie: You're still making my point - all sites are at least a
little biased
Natalie: Don't be so sure those are accurate either.
Natalie: I refuse to get into a right-vs.-left thing on this.
Natalie: Fair enough
Natalie: See my comment above
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Natalie, have you set up your newsreader to post in this fashion? It
is rather confusing to follow your comments since your newsreader is
not changing the level of quoting from the previous poster.
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"I miss. I miss. I miss. I make."
Seve Ballesteros describing his four-putt at Augusta's No. 16 in 1988.
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WickeddollŽ
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"Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
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WickeddollŽ wrote:
| Quote: | "Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
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WickeddollŽ wrote:
user@user.net> wrote in message
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On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 19:58:19 -0400, "WickeddollŽ"
wickeddoll1958nofeckingspam@yahoo.com> wrote:
More and more each day it looks like this corruption is more
widespread. I wouldn't trust the UN with a dime.
Bummer - do you have a link regarding this?
Pick any search engine, news site, etc. Do a search on the UN, food
for oil, Annan, or any other key word. You will get enough to keep
you busy for days.
Lord...guess I'll take them off my charity list
this is the first time today I've actually wanted to SCREAM at the
IGNORANCE.
Jesus Christ PEOPLE do some fucking RESEARCH before you go TAKING FOOD
OUT OF CHILDRENS' MOUTHS. MORONS
(I know compliance/fundraising, but obviously I'd make a piss poor
fundraiser)
Natalie: Was all that really necessary?
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yes.
Natalie: We'll have to agree to disagree
| Quote: | We all know that the internet can be a den of lies.
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can be?
Natalie: You're still making my point - all sites are at least a *little*
biased
| Quote: | Any given link is made up of what the writer wishes to say,
so really, none of them can be all that reliable.
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Some are vetted links. The ones I posted about Unicef are in this
category.
Natalie: Don't be so sure those are accurate either.
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I said I *guess* I'll take them off the list, not "OK, that's it, they're
off"
Save your steam for a worthier cause, like the state of health care in
*this*
country.
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Thats a "lost cause" as long as Bush is behind the wheel. I mean, even
Bill Frist swapped positions -- a heart transplant surgeon -- and this
MORON is still standing firm on his stem cell decision.
Natalie: I refuse to get into a right-vs.-left thing on this.
I prefer to support a cause that is more likely to be successful in the
short term. I find supporting organizations like Unicef, March of
Dimes, Red Cross, etc. to be more productive this year.
Natalie: Fair enough
Wait for 2006 -- thats our next shot to keep the kids in America
healthy and happy.
Natalie: See my comment above |
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WickeddollŽ
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Tue Aug 02, 2005 12:14 am Post subject:
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"Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
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WickeddollŽ wrote:
| Quote: | "Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
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user@user.net wrote:
On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 19:58:19 -0400, "WickeddollŽ"
wickeddoll1958nofeckingspam@yahoo.com> wrote:
More and more each day it looks like this corruption is more
widespread. I wouldn't trust the UN with a dime.
Bummer - do you have a link regarding this?
Pick any search engine, news site, etc.
As I said he has absolutely no idea what he's talking about.
Do a search on the UN, food
for oil, Annan, or any other key word. You will
find that the UN and UNICEF are loosely related at best.
Here are a couple of links that unequivocally support my assertion:
http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm/bay/search.summary/orgid/4617.htm
[gives a breakdown of how UNICEF money is distributed]
http://www.give.org/seal.asp?ID=851312005
[the BBB Wise Giving Alliance seal of approval]
Don't get me wrong -- spread your charity around.
I just know that right now UNICEF is at the center of Food Aid in
Bagdhad, Niger, and other hot spots around the world.
Oh, and the U.S. Fund for UNICEF is operated under the auspices of the
United STATES.
Natalie: All charitable organizations can be suspect. How money is
distributed is a big deal for me, since I'd like to get more bang for the
bucks, but in the end, every little bit helps for most charities.
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Oh, and I agree 100%. I don't have a whole lot of cash to give away,
so I am very careful about which charities I support. I am very
concerned that every dollar I give is put to the best possible use.
And a lot of times it is just that, a few dollars. No tax benefit
here!
Just a few bucks helps:
[CITE:unicefusa.org sidebar]
What your money can buy
$17 can immunize a child against the major childhood diseases.
$40 can provide blankets to protect ten small children from the cold.
$60 can provide vaccines to protect 60 children from a preventable
disease, measles, for life.
$150 can buy a handpump, pipes and accessories to install a shallow
well to benefit up to 250 people.
$500 can provide enough vitamin A capsules to protect 16,666 young
children from blindness and improve their overall health for one year.
[/CITE]
Oh yes, and check the shopping link -- I've picked up some really nice
gifts and greeting cards there. I like the thought that I'm paying
folks for their work. After all, thats what we humans like to do --
engage in good old commerce.
And, as we've seen time and again in Iraq, "idle hands are the devil's
workshop" [Chaucer, among others].
Me: There, wasn't that much more pleasant (And helpful) than blasphemy and
ignominy? I knew you'd agree
Natalie
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hachiroku
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On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 09:05:40 -0700, Learning Richard wrote:
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WickeddollŽ wrote:
"Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
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WickeddollŽ wrote:
user@user.net> wrote in message
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On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 19:58:19 -0400, "WickeddollŽ"
wickeddoll1958nofeckingspam@yahoo.com> wrote:
More and more each day it looks like this corruption is more
widespread. I wouldn't trust the UN with a dime.
Bummer - do you have a link regarding this?
Pick any search engine, news site, etc. Do a search on the UN, food
for oil, Annan, or any other key word. You will get enough to keep
you busy for days.
Lord...guess I'll take them off my charity list
this is the first time today I've actually wanted to SCREAM at the
IGNORANCE.
Jesus Christ PEOPLE do some fucking RESEARCH before you go TAKING FOOD
OUT OF CHILDRENS' MOUTHS. MORONS
(I know compliance/fundraising, but obviously I'd make a piss poor
fundraiser)
Natalie: Was all that really necessary?
yes.
We all know that the internet can be a den of lies.
can be?
Any given link is made up of what the writer wishes to say, so really,
none of them can be all that reliable.
Some are vetted links. The ones I posted about Unicef are in this
category.
I said I *guess* I'll take them off the list, not "OK, that's it,
they're off"
Save your steam for a worthier cause, like the state of health care in
*this* country.
Thats a "lost cause" as long as Bush is behind the wheel. I mean, even
Bill Frist swapped positions -- a heart transplant surgeon -- and this
MORON is still standing firm on his stem cell decision.
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Yeah, man was THAT a surprise, or what!?
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I prefer to support a cause that is more likely to be successful in the
short term. I find supporting organizations like Unicef, March of Dimes,
Red Cross, etc. to be more productive this year.
Wait for 2006 -- thats our next shot to keep the kids in America healthy
and happy.
Natalie |
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hachiroku
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Tue Aug 02, 2005 12:14 am Post subject:
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On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 15:56:19 +0000, bb wrote:
| Quote: | On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 12:01:08 GMT, Scott in Florida <JustAsk@Florida.com
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There have been cases in the past (if my memory is correct) of corruption
in UNICEF.
So facts have nothing to do with it?
I, personally, won't give a dime to anything that the UN has any
connection with.
Good little dittohead. Do not think for yourself. Let them tell you what
to think. Just tune in to AM radio to get the list of who and what to
hate.
bb
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What does this have to do with being a dittohead? I got ALL my information
for this argument from NPR, and some from the BBC.
NPR AND THE BBC ARE HATE MONGERS! MARCH IN LOCK-STEP WITH THEM!!! SEIG
HEIL!!!
Or, by your logic, anyway... |
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Dbu_^
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In article <1122929077.201060.14770@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Mark" <markpippin@email.com> wrote:
Yikes, that's about as bad as crop circles and UFOs.
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Learning Richard
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hachiroku wrote:
| Quote: | NPR about 4-6 weeks ago
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Well there ya go -- the Hill is threatening to strangle NPR, so
naturally they start becoming... how shall I say... more "Fair and
Balanced"?
I'm sure whomever did that report had a barf bag on hand for those
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hachiroku
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On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 08:16:54 -0500, Charles @ Kankakee wrote:
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"Scott in Florida" <JustAsk@Florida.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 12:42:30 GMT, Dbu-^ <ntspam@spc.om> wrote:
In article <9r3se1lvhb4cd2teaqk6drcn6s3pd4i01a@4ax.com>,
Scott in Florida <JustAsk@Florida.com> wrote:
On Mon, 1 Aug 2005 02:00:57 -0500, "Charles @ Kankakee"
n5hsr@comcast.net> wrote:
"Sharx35" <sharx35@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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badgolferman wrote:
WickeddollŽ, 7/31/2005, 8:07:50 PM, wrote:
Lord...guess I'll take them off my charity list
Natalie
Consider UMCOR.
From the website:
"When you give to the United Methodist Committee on Relief you
can be
sure that your money will go where you want it to go. One hundred
percent of your tax-deductible gifts go to the emergency or
project that you designate. UMCOR's administrative costs come
from other sources, especially the United Methodist One Great
Hour of Sharing offering."
http://gbgm-umc.org/umcor/info.stm
I would trust the church less than any other source.
Typical asshole reply from a secular humanist "legend in his own
mind"
asshat.
Since United Way has started up this "anti-Boy-Scout" thing a decade
ago,
they haven't got a dime from me. If they're anti-decency and
pro-gay, I'm
not wasting my money there. Besides I know how they work. I had a
friend
who worked on the inside one year and explained how it all got
'used'. Never again. They can pry the money from my cold,dead hand,
but they're
going to have to wait in line.
I've seen the inside of the United Way, also....and won't give a dime
to them.
The Salvation Army is my main charity.
I don't buy a damned thing at Target anymore, since they would not let
the bell ringers out in front of their stores last year.
Charles of Kankakee
Did you read this? From an article where 4 were hit by lightning, but
the last of the article which I've pasted below is what got me steamed.
"The Jamboree runs through Aug. 3, with President Bush scheduled to
speak Wednesday evening. Scouts ages 12-18 are to spend 10 days camping
in tents and taking part in activities that include archery, fishing and
a GPS-based scavenger hunt.
The Boy Scouts of America have held the event since 1937 with the next
gathering set for 2010, the Scouts' 100th anniversary. It may not be
held at Fort A.P. Hill, which has hosted the event since 1981. A federal
judge recently ruled that the Pentagon can no longer financially support
the event. If the ruling stands, the Boy Scouts would have to find
another location for their next gathering. A lawsuit filed by the
American Civil Liberties Union of Illinois contends that the Defense
Department's sponsorship violates the First Amendment because the Scouts
require members to swear an oath of duty to God."
Another reason we need to fire these judges and get some new ones.
George W. Bush is hard at it...
No wonder the liberals 'hate' him...
He is bringing back 'reason' to America.
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Scott in Florida
Much as the LLL's such as Stupid Dick and Obese One Kennedy want to
eliminiate it. I'm beginning to wonder if Tail Gunner Joe might just have
been right all those years ago.
Charles of Kankakee
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There, uh, you go, uh, picking on, uh, the Wizard of, er, uh, Uh's again!
My home state senator. One of these days we'll vote him out...I hope.
More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than by inhaling Whipits!
(Wizard Of Uh's, stolen from Howie Carr; http://www.howiecarr.com )
The Wizard of Uh's is a contest, usually run after Teddy has appeared on
Meet The dePRESSed or made a 'big' speech in Congress. He plays a 20
second or so segment and you have to count the number of times he says "uh".
"Er's" don't count, "uh-uh-uh" counts as three. See link above... |
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hachiroku
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On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 04:04:51 +0000, bb wrote:
| Quote: | On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 03:47:38 GMT, Scott in Florida <JustAsk@Florida.com
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http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm/bay/search.summary/orgid/4617.htm
Thank you Scott for proving Richard right, although I doubt that was your
intent. UNICEF gets the highest rating, four stars. 87.3% of donations
goes towards programs. I guess this link shows UNICEF is a very, very
efficient program.
bb
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So WTF is this?
EFFICIENCY RATING:
(38.73)
From the link you offered... |
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hachiroku
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On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 19:24:18 +0000, Dbu_^ wrote:
| Quote: | In article <xn0e5hboj64z5xr001@news.readfreenews.net>,
"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
Dbu_^, 8/1/2005, 12:16:48 PM,
ntspam-75F44D.11164801082005@news-rdr-02.rdc-kc.rr.com> wrote:
In article <9ehse11qap6oba3qa6m6o14402jiqhlabt@4ax.com>,
bb <blackies@home.com> wrote:
On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 12:01:08 GMT, Scott in Florida
JustAsk@Florida.com> wrote:
There have been cases in the past (if my memory is correct) of
corruption in UNICEF.
So facts have nothing to do with it?
I, personally, won't give a dime to anything that the UN has any
connection with.
Good little dittohead. Do not think for yourself. Let them tell
you what to think. Just tune in to AM radio to get the list of who
and what to hate.
bb
what's a dittohead?
A dittohead is an endearing term used to describe a listener of Rush
Limbaugh who agrees with what he says. The term was originally used by
Rush and his fans as a way to be part of "the club" and has now become a
somewhat derogatory term used by Limbaugh haters. It's not much
different than the word "redneck" and how people use it these days.
Those who are rednecks see nothing wrong with the word, and those who
look down upon rednecks use the word to belittle others.
I don't listen to rush limbaugh. I have in the past when the time was
right, but never paid that much attention. He's entertaining I guess. I
did like the G. Gordon Libby program. He was a gas and a half. No
station in the area carries him anymore.
Thanks.
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WHOA! You listen to G.? Whew...you have a stronger constitution than I, my
friend! He makes Limbaugh look like a Choir Boy!
Ever listen to Michael Savage? He makes LIDDY look like a MODERATE! |
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hachiroku
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On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 16:16:48 +0000, Dbu_^ wrote:
| Quote: | In article <9ehse11qap6oba3qa6m6o14402jiqhlabt@4ax.com>,
bb <blackies@home.com> wrote:
On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 12:01:08 GMT, Scott in Florida <JustAsk@Florida.com
wrote:
There have been cases in the past (if my memory is correct) of
corruption in UNICEF.
So facts have nothing to do with it?
I, personally, won't give a dime to anything that the UN has any
connection with.
Good little dittohead. Do not think for yourself. Let them tell you
what to think. Just tune in to AM radio to get the list of who and what
to hate.
bb
what's a dittohead?
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Me. I listen to Rush Limbaugh and have found that he speaks what I think,
or at least a pretty good chunk of what I think.
Others will tell you Rush tells US what to think. They don't know Jack... |
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Scott in Florida
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On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 20:32:36 GMT, Dbu_^ <ntspam@spc.om> wrote:
| Quote: | In article <oguse11o1qtk4r1fvub8tifkvn1vrcgtrk@4ax.com>,
Scott in Florida <JustAsk@Florida.com> wrote:
On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 19:24:18 GMT, Dbu_^ <ntspam@spc.om> wrote:
I don't listen to rush limbaugh. I have in the past when the time was
right, but never paid that much attention. He's entertaining I guess.
I did like the G. Gordon Libby program. He was a gas and a half. No
station in the area carries him anymore.
The G man is available over the web....
http://www.liddyshow.us/affiliate.php
Hey, kool. I got him bookmarked. I did manage about 20 minutes of Rush
this afternoon, but he pauses so much for commercials as the show gets
close to finishing.
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Well there is a way around that....Rush Pod casts his show.
You get all the meat without any of the commercials.
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Scott in Florida |
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hachiroku
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On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 19:01:32 +0000, ron wrote:
| Quote: | If you think that UNICEF is not an agency that is under the UN umbrella,
you been doing something other than dope.
It is about as efficient as the UN general assembly.
Take a read on the unicef sites - a big budget and damned little
positives. UNICEF is a huge bloated bureacracy, typical of all UN
programs. Cry for more money=fatter salaries=less good work.
No matter where it is, the inability of a country to feed itself is bound
to bring untold suffering.
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And the spending of money to wage civil wars against other tribes counts
in, too. Heard this on the same NPR report I heard the failed deliveries
on. Especially in the case of the Hutus and the Tootsies (I really don't
care how it's spelled, every time I hear a news story about it, all I can
think is "Hutu, Tootsie, Goodbye...")
They could easily solve ALL their own problems if they would stop buying
armaments and start using the money to grow crops. Africa has gone from
one of the world's largest EXPORTERS of food to one of the biggest
IMPORTERS. And, in the SAME report on NPR, the person making th report
noted that, with a climate similar to Australia, they too could grow
plenty of sheep, export the wool and use the profits to feed themselves.
Let the wars end first. Then talk about sending food. Send in the Marines!
Oooooh-rah! |
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hachiroku
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On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 03:39:27 +0000, Scott in Florida wrote:
| Quote: | On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 00:27:02 GMT, hachiroku <ae86@Trueno.GTS> wrote:
If Bush wanted to do some good, he would take this mis-managed project
away from the UN and give the military something useful to do. Let's see
corrupt governments steal from the friggin' MARINES! oooh-rah! And a
deuce and a half will hold a LOT of wheat and grain.
Bush is gonna appoint Bolton (who is a 'take no shit' guy) to the
UN....exactly what we need in there.
The 'Donald' has offered his services to oversee the rebuilding of the UN
building for free.
With Bolton and 'the Donald' in there...I'd say the problems will be
mostly solved...
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LOL! I saw that today during one of my many Water Breaks (with this
miserable weather I have been drinking about a gallon a day!) and saw
where Bolton was going to be sworn in. He's an Asshole with a capital A,
but he sure is what is needed in the UN. I don't think he'll be flexing
with every breeze that comes along! Just what we needed for a UN
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hachiroku
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On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 18:35:19 -0700, Learning Richard wrote:
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hachiroku wrote:
On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 15:14:45 -0700, Learning Richard wrote:
Children are dying as I type this.
www.unicef.org
Yeah, you saw this too. You need to listen to NPR. We're talking *NPR*
GOD DAMMIT
THE UN DOES NOT CONTROL UNICEF
(i give up let the kids starve because of your collective fear and
soundbyte based ethnocentrism)
later
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I DON'T CARE WHO'S CONTROLLING UNICEF! IT'S A FUCKING MESS, WITH ONLY 1/3
OF THE SUPPLIES REACHING THE NEEDY! MAKE IT 3/4 AND THEN I"LL BEGIN TO
THINK ABOUT IT! IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SOUNDBYTE BASED ETHNOCENTRISM!
SEND IN THE MARINES! OOOOOH-RAH! |
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