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Night Spirit
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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 6:36 am    Post subject: Re: OT GIVE TO UNICEF NOW Reply with quote

Learning Richard wrote:
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Children are dying as I type this.

www.unicef.org

World Vision and Save the Children are other good programs.

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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 6:39 am    Post subject: Re: OT GIVE TO UNICEF NOW Reply with quote

"Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
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WickeddollŽ wrote:
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user@user.net> wrote in message
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On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 19:58:19 -0400, "WickeddollŽ"
wickeddoll1958nofeckingspam@yahoo.com> wrote:

More and more each day it looks like this corruption is more
widespread. I wouldn't trust the UN with a dime.

Bummer - do you have a link regarding this?

Pick any search engine, news site, etc. Do a search on the UN, food
for oil, Annan, or any other key word. You will get enough to keep
you busy for days.

Lord...guess I'll take them off my charity list


this is the first time today I've actually wanted to SCREAM at the
IGNORANCE.


Jesus Christ PEOPLE do some fucking RESEARCH before you go TAKING FOOD
OUT OF CHILDRENS' MOUTHS. MORONS

(I know compliance/fundraising, but obviously I'd make a piss poor
fundraiser)

Natalie: Was all that really necessary? We all know that the internet can be
a den of lies. Any given link is made up of what the writer wishes to say,
so really, none of them can be all that reliable.

I said I *guess* I'll take them off the list, not "OK, that's it, they're
off"

Save your steam for a worthier cause, like the state of health care in *this*
country.

Natalie
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WickeddollŽ
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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 6:41 am    Post subject: Re: OT GIVE TO UNICEF NOW Reply with quote

"ron" <randus3remove@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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the problem is that as long as there is as much corruption in the UN ("Oil
for Food = 26 "palaces" for Saddam).

And a very large contingent of the personnel with their hands out are
favorites of their governments (Can you say "Security Council"?)

There will be no changes.

I'd not donate to them nor do I like my tax money going there either.

(Hey Nat get a load of this.. Wife going in in the morning for outpatient
in OR to get a non-cancerous growth off the Ulna nerve. As doctor won't
use outpatient for this, our estimated charge is $15,000 of which we owe
10% of plus doctors fees - they anticipate less than 1/2 hour)
(Do you think that this is because 40% of this hospitals bills are
uncollectable?)

I doubt if it is 1/4" deep. No wonder insurance is so high. Yes she is
employed by same hospital!!

Ron
Oh it's so much worse than you think. The last practice I worked for charged

its staff for visits, something I had never seen anywhere. I told the CEO
that he can expect the huge turnaround at that practice to continue, with
tactics like that.

Natalie

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WickeddollŽ
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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 6:42 am    Post subject: Re: OT GIVE TO UNICEF NOW Reply with quote

"Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
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user@user.net wrote:
Quote:
On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 19:58:19 -0400, "WickeddollŽ"
wickeddoll1958nofeckingspam@yahoo.com> wrote:

More and more each day it looks like this corruption is more
widespread. I wouldn't trust the UN with a dime.

Bummer - do you have a link regarding this?

Pick any search engine, news site, etc.

As I said he has absolutely no idea what he's talking about.


Quote:
Do a search on the UN, food
for oil, Annan, or any other key word. You will

find that the UN and UNICEF are loosely related at best.

Here are a couple of links that unequivocally support my assertion:

http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm/bay/search.summary/orgid/4617.htm
[gives a breakdown of how UNICEF money is distributed]

http://www.give.org/seal.asp?ID=851312005
[the BBB Wise Giving Alliance seal of approval]

Don't get me wrong -- spread your charity around.

I just know that right now UNICEF is at the center of Food Aid in
Bagdhad, Niger, and other hot spots around the world.

Oh, and the U.S. Fund for UNICEF is operated under the auspices of the
United STATES.

Natalie: All charitable organizations can be suspect. How money is
distributed is a big deal for me, since I'd like to get more bang for the
bucks, but in the end, every little bit helps for most charities.
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hachiroku
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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:10 am    Post subject: Re: OT GIVE TO UNICEF NOW Reply with quote

On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 18:33:33 -0700, Learning Richard wrote:

Quote:

WickeddollŽ wrote:
user@user.net> wrote in message
news:dmpqe1pfivd4pkfsuiho6e0u4ueughla3g@4ax.com...
On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 19:58:19 -0400, "WickeddollŽ"
wickeddoll1958nofeckingspam@yahoo.com> wrote:

More and more each day it looks like this corruption is more
widespread. I wouldn't trust the UN with a dime.

Bummer - do you have a link regarding this?

Pick any search engine, news site, etc. Do a search on the UN, food
for oil, Annan, or any other key word. You will get enough to keep
you busy for days.

Lord...guess I'll take them off my charity list


this is the first time today I've actually wanted to SCREAM at the
IGNORANCE.


Jesus Christ PEOPLE do some fucking RESEARCH before you go TAKING FOOD OUT
OF CHILDRENS' MOUTHS. MORONS

I have. I'll give my money to Red Cross or Save the Children (89% goes TO
the kids) before I let UNICEF piss it away by only getting 1/3 to where it
needs to go. The source was NPR about 4-6 weeks ago.

The real shame is, UNICEF is actually spending about 90% of what it
collects on itmes for the needy, but they way they distribute it SUCKS!
Not a question of fraud on UNICEF's part, but their distribution system
sucks, and some of it winds up in the wrong hands due to theivery and
corruption on the part of the recipients! And 1/3 never gets distributed,
or the truck breaks down, or, (in a couple instances) it goes to where the
Nomads WERE and now there is nobody there to collect it and it spoils.

Like I said, send in the Marines! Oooooh-Rah!

Quote:

(I know compliance/fundraising, but obviously I'd make a piss poor
fundraiser)

Natalie
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WickeddollŽ
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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:28 am    Post subject: Re: OT GIVE TO UNICEF NOW Reply with quote

"hachiroku" <ae86@Trueno.GTS> wrote in message
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On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 18:33:33 -0700, Learning Richard wrote:


WickeddollŽ wrote:
user@user.net> wrote in message
More and more each day it looks like this corruption is more
widespread. I wouldn't trust the UN with a dime.

Bummer - do you have a link regarding this?

Pick any search engine, news site, etc. Do a search on the UN, food
for oil, Annan, or any other key word. You will get enough to keep
you busy for days.

Lord...guess I'll take them off my charity list


this is the first time today I've actually wanted to SCREAM at the
IGNORANCE.


Jesus Christ PEOPLE do some fucking RESEARCH before you go TAKING FOOD OUT
OF CHILDRENS' MOUTHS. MORONS

I have. I'll give my money to Red Cross or Save the Children (89% goes TO
the kids) before I let UNICEF piss it away by only getting 1/3 to where it
needs to go. The source was NPR about 4-6 weeks ago.

The real shame is, UNICEF is actually spending about 90% of what it
collects on itmes for the needy, but they way they distribute it SUCKS!
Not a question of fraud on UNICEF's part, but their distribution system
sucks, and some of it winds up in the wrong hands due to theivery and
corruption on the part of the recipients! And 1/3 never gets distributed,
or the truck breaks down, or, (in a couple instances) it goes to where the
Nomads WERE and now there is nobody there to collect it and it spoils.

Like I said, send in the Marines! Oooooh-Rah!


I don't think it's realistic to think that *any* charity isn't occasionally
corrupted. Anything dealt with by humans can be easily tainted.

Natalie
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badgolferman
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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:39 am    Post subject: Re: OT GIVE TO UNICEF NOW Reply with quote

WickeddollŽ, 7/31/2005, 8:07:50 PM, wrote:

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Lord...guess I'll take them off my charity list

Natalie

Consider UMCOR.

From the website:
"When you give to the United Methodist Committee on Relief you can be
sure that your money will go where you want it to go. One hundred
percent of your tax-deductible gifts go to the emergency or project
that you designate. UMCOR's administrative costs come from other
sources, especially the United Methodist One Great Hour of Sharing
offering."
http://gbgm-umc.org/umcor/info.stm

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Charles @ Kankakee
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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:15 am    Post subject: Re: OT GIVE TO UNICEF NOW Reply with quote

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"Josh" <nobody@noplacenowhere.never> wrote in message
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badgolferman wrote:
WickeddollŽ, 7/31/2005, 8:07:50 PM, wrote:

Lord...guess I'll take them off my charity list

Natalie

Consider UMCOR.

From the website:
"When you give to the United Methodist Committee on Relief you can be
sure that your money will go where you want it to go. One hundred
percent of your tax-deductible gifts go to the emergency or project
that you designate. UMCOR's administrative costs come from other
sources, especially the United Methodist One Great Hour of Sharing
offering."
http://gbgm-umc.org/umcor/info.stm

I would trust the church less than any other source.

Typical asshole reply from a secular humanist "legend in his own mind"
asshat.






Since United Way has started up this "anti-Boy-Scout" thing a decade ago,
they haven't got a dime from me. If they're anti-decency and pro-gay, I'm
not wasting my money there. Besides I know how they work. I had a friend
who worked on the inside one year and explained how it all got 'used'.
Never again. They can pry the money from my cold,dead hand, but they're
going to have to wait in line.

Charles of Kankakee
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"Josh" <nobody@noplacenowhere.never> wrote in message
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badgolferman wrote:
WickeddollŽ, 7/31/2005, 8:07:50 PM, wrote:

Lord...guess I'll take them off my charity list

Natalie

Consider UMCOR.

From the website:
"When you give to the United Methodist Committee on Relief you can be
sure that your money will go where you want it to go. One hundred
percent of your tax-deductible gifts go to the emergency or project
that you designate. UMCOR's administrative costs come from other
sources, especially the United Methodist One Great Hour of Sharing
offering."
http://gbgm-umc.org/umcor/info.stm

I would trust the church less than any other source.

Typical asshole reply from a secular humanist "legend in his own mind"
asshat.

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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:15 am    Post subject: Re: OT GIVE TO UNICEF NOW Reply with quote

badgolferman wrote:
Quote:
WickeddollŽ, 7/31/2005, 8:07:50 PM, wrote:

Lord...guess I'll take them off my charity list

Natalie

Consider UMCOR.

From the website:
"When you give to the United Methodist Committee on Relief you can be
sure that your money will go where you want it to go. One hundred
percent of your tax-deductible gifts go to the emergency or project
that you designate. UMCOR's administrative costs come from other
sources, especially the United Methodist One Great Hour of Sharing
offering."
http://gbgm-umc.org/umcor/info.stm

I would trust the church less than any other source.
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bb
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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:15 am    Post subject: Re: OT GIVE TO UNICEF NOW Reply with quote

On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 03:47:38 GMT, Scott in Florida
<JustAsk@Florida.com> wrote:

Quote:
http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm/bay/search.summary/orgid/4617.htm

Thank you Scott for proving Richard right, although I doubt that was
your intent. UNICEF gets the highest rating, four stars. 87.3% of
donations goes towards programs. I guess this link shows UNICEF is a
very, very efficient program.

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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:15 am    Post subject: Re: OT GIVE TO UNICEF NOW Reply with quote

On 31 Jul 2005 18:35:19 -0700, "Learning Richard"
<learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote:

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GOD DAMMIT

THE UN DOES NOT CONTROL UNICEF

You really have gone of the deep end.....

Get back on your drugs...you are about to explode...


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Scott in Florida
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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:15 am    Post subject: Re: OT GIVE TO UNICEF NOW Reply with quote

On 31 Jul 2005 18:24:43 -0700, "Learning Richard"
<learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote:

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WickeddollŽ wrote:
user@user.net> wrote in message
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On 31 Jul 2005 23:50:29 GMT, "badgolferman"
REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

Learning Richard, 7/31/2005, 6:14:45 PM, wrote:

Children are dying as I type this.

www.unicef.org

Better yet, give to Red Cross where 91% of donations make it to the
needy. UNICEF gives 58% and the rest line the pockets of the corrupt
UN officials.

More and more each day it looks like this corruption is more
widespread. I wouldn't trust the UN with a dime.

Bummer - do you have a link regarding this?

He doesn't because such a link does not exist. Trust me on this one.

http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm/bay/search.summary/orgid/4617.htm

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Natalie

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Scott in Florida
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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:15 am    Post subject: Re: OT GIVE TO UNICEF NOW Reply with quote

On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 03:20:23 GMT, Scott in Florida
<JustAsk@Florida.com> wrote:

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On 31 Jul 2005 15:14:45 -0700, "Learning Richard"
learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote:

Children are dying as I type this.

Yes millions and millions are being killed by abortion....

Globally somewhere between 300 and 1000 per minute. Three per minute
in the US alone.
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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:15 am    Post subject: Re: OT GIVE TO UNICEF NOW Reply with quote

On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 22:28:50 -0400, "WickeddollŽ"
<wickeddoll1958nofeckingspam@yahoo.com> wrote:

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I don't think it's realistic to think that *any* charity isn't occasionally
corrupted. Anything dealt with by humans can be easily tainted.

You are correct. Even the Red Cross had its problems a few years ago.
They have cleared up their act it seems, so I'll trust their ratio
much more than that of the UN or associated charities.
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