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Seth Brundle
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Thu Dec 02, 2004 10:50 pm Post subject:
2005 545i vs 2005 A6 4.2 |
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I have a 2000 540i, and am looking to upgrade.
It looks like a dead heat between the 05 545i and 05 A6 4.2.
BMW has put me in such a difficult position with their pricing, body
design, and iDrive.
The first time I saw a 2005 545i I was like 'YUCK!!!'. I mean I really
wanted to like it but I just could not as hard as I tried. It truly
looks terrible to me, my girlfriend had the exact same reaction.
Meanwhile, the A6 is a very pedestrian Audi design - better in that it
doesnt bother me.
The Audi is limited to 130 MPH and although thats unfortunate, I think
I've only exceeded that once in the 540i anyway, and just briefly. The
540i is slightly faster in acceleration thanks to the torque if not
the HP.
I know I'll like driving the BMW more, thats what got me the 540i.
I've driven Audis - they are 'smooth' - real smooth, but Im not
looking for smooth, I like 'fun'.
Anyways - opinions?
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fbloogyudsr
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Thu Dec 02, 2004 11:06 pm Post subject:
Re: 2005 545i vs 2005 A6 4.2 |
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"Seth Brundle" <brundlefly76@hotmail.com> wrote
| Quote: | I have a 2000 540i, and am looking to upgrade.
It looks like a dead heat between the 05 545i and 05 A6 4.2.
BMW has put me in such a difficult position with their pricing, body
design, and iDrive.
The first time I saw a 2005 545i I was like 'YUCK!!!'. I mean I really
wanted to like it but I just could not as hard as I tried. It truly
looks terrible to me, my girlfriend had the exact same reaction.
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And you like the new Audi styling with the big snoz?
| Quote: | Anyways - opinions?
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The latest Car & Driver likes it a lot, but they don't like the sport
suspension.
Floyd |
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Randy S
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Thu Dec 02, 2004 11:48 pm Post subject:
Re: 2005 545i vs 2005 A6 4.2 |
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I'm a German car fan myself (have two Mercedes) and have been looking at the
5-series (hate iDrive) and the new A6 as well. However, I've had horrible
experiences with Mercedes service, and a friend has had similar experience with
his older Audi A6. I actually stopped in and looked at the new Acura RL
yesterday, and I was very impressed overall. I didn't drive it however, and
I'm sure its 300-HP V6 isn't in the same torque league as the German V8s.
However, for $49,000 loaded with Navi, all-wheel-drive, e.t.c. (there are no
options), it's a bargin. I just wish the backseat was bigger.
Randy
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Cam Newton
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Fri Dec 03, 2004 12:03 am Post subject:
Re: 2005 545i vs 2005 A6 4.2 |
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On 02 Dec 2004 18:48:11 GMT, mikado95@aol.com (Randy S) wrote:
| Quote: | I'm a German car fan myself (have two Mercedes) and have been looking at the
5-series (hate iDrive) and the new A6 as well. However, I've had horrible
experiences with Mercedes service, and a friend has had similar experience with
his older Audi A6. I actually stopped in and looked at the new Acura RL
yesterday, and I was very impressed overall. I didn't drive it however, and
I'm sure its 300-HP V6 isn't in the same torque league as the German V8s.
However, for $49,000 loaded with Navi, all-wheel-drive, e.t.c. (there are no
options), it's a bargin. I just wish the backseat was bigger.
Randy
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Forget the Honda's. Err, Acura's.
I looked at the TSX, TL and the G35X and found all wanting. A lot. Got
an 2004 A4 1.8 q almost fully loaded. The Japanese are too much like
American car makers: rather than finesse, they will give you too much
HP for the front wheels and hope you don't get the implications of
what they have done. And the cars themselves while priced 'well' miss
on a few key areas (those areas are largely personal). Compare feature
by feature and either Audi or BMW will win over the Japanese. |
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Tony
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Fri Dec 03, 2004 12:10 am Post subject:
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I think that the 130 mph limit is a bit understated. This may be done to keep
the claim within tire speed ratings.
At an on track driving 'school' last spring I was driving a friend's '04 S4 4.2
(which is also supposed to have a limit of 130) and was hitting 150+ on the
straight with a lot of room to go.
Tony
Seth Brundle wrote:
| Quote: | I have a 2000 540i, and am looking to upgrade.
It looks like a dead heat between the 05 545i and 05 A6 4.2.
BMW has put me in such a difficult position with their pricing, body
design, and iDrive.
The first time I saw a 2005 545i I was like 'YUCK!!!'. I mean I really
wanted to like it but I just could not as hard as I tried. It truly
looks terrible to me, my girlfriend had the exact same reaction.
Meanwhile, the A6 is a very pedestrian Audi design - better in that it
doesnt bother me.
The Audi is limited to 130 MPH and although thats unfortunate, I think
I've only exceeded that once in the 540i anyway, and just briefly. The
540i is slightly faster in acceleration thanks to the torque if not
the HP.
I know I'll like driving the BMW more, thats what got me the 540i.
I've driven Audis - they are 'smooth' - real smooth, but Im not
looking for smooth, I like 'fun'.
Anyways - opinions? |
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Pete
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Fri Dec 03, 2004 1:25 am Post subject:
Re: 2005 545i vs 2005 A6 4.2 |
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"Tony" wrote
| Quote: | At an on track driving 'school' last spring I was driving a friend's
'04 S4 4.2 (which is also supposed to have a limit of 130) and was
hitting 150+ on the straight with a lot of room to go.
Tony
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According to the US specs, the S4 is electronically limited to 155 mph.
And of course you can remove that limit by getting an aftermarket
chip/software as well.
Cheers,
Pete |
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Ramone Cila
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Fri Dec 03, 2004 1:45 am Post subject:
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"Seth Brundle" <brundlefly76@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:53e2ec95.0412020950.1a92dfc3@posting.google.com...
| Quote: | I have a 2000 540i, and am looking to upgrade.
It looks like a dead heat between the 05 545i and 05 A6 4.2.
BMW has put me in such a difficult position with their pricing, body
design, and iDrive.
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Fitted similarly, the cars have a difference of 4 or 5 grand. At this price
level that's not much. I-drive isn't an issue unless you make it so. By and
large the magazines are essentially wrong with their reviews of i-drive.
Body design? If you don't like it...don't buy it. I wouldn't buy a car which
I didn't apprciate the exterior styling.
I own a 545i.
| Quote: | The first time I saw a 2005 545i I was like 'YUCK!!!'. I mean I really
wanted to like it but I just could not as hard as I tried. It truly
looks terrible to me, my girlfriend had the exact same reaction.
Meanwhile, the A6 is a very pedestrian Audi design - better in that it
doesnt bother me.
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I think differently. I think it is quite nice looking...even the large
grill. Audi is more an "everyman's" car. Caught somewhere between being best
at anything. Reviews say it rides hard....too hard. But I haven't had an
opportunity behind the wheel. though I must say that BMW's compliant yet
gripping ride is one of the things I like most about BMW's in general
regardless of model.
| Quote: | The Audi is limited to 130 MPH and although thats unfortunate, I think
I've only exceeded that once in the 540i anyway, and just briefly. The
540i is slightly faster in acceleration thanks to the torque if not
the HP.
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The 545 has been clocked at 5.3 (Road and Track) to 60 with an auto
tranny...Audi specs 6.3 and 6.1 for the new A6. |
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GRL
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Fri Dec 03, 2004 4:29 am Post subject:
Re: 2005 545i vs 2005 A6 4.2 |
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It may drive great and you can't tell how ugly it may be from inside, but
remember, every time that you go to drive it you're going to have to look at
it before you get inside.
A great drive is a great drive only while you're driving, but ugly is
forever.
- GRL
"Seth Brundle" <brundlefly76@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:53e2ec95.0412020950.1a92dfc3@posting.google.com...
| Quote: | I have a 2000 540i, and am looking to upgrade.
It looks like a dead heat between the 05 545i and 05 A6 4.2.
BMW has put me in such a difficult position with their pricing, body
design, and iDrive.
The first time I saw a 2005 545i I was like 'YUCK!!!'. I mean I really
wanted to like it but I just could not as hard as I tried. It truly
looks terrible to me, my girlfriend had the exact same reaction.
Meanwhile, the A6 is a very pedestrian Audi design - better in that it
doesnt bother me.
The Audi is limited to 130 MPH and although thats unfortunate, I think
I've only exceeded that once in the 540i anyway, and just briefly. The
540i is slightly faster in acceleration thanks to the torque if not
the HP.
I know I'll like driving the BMW more, thats what got me the 540i.
I've driven Audis - they are 'smooth' - real smooth, but Im not
looking for smooth, I like 'fun'.
Anyways - opinions? |
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LIW
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Fri Dec 03, 2004 5:40 am Post subject:
Re: 2005 545i vs 2005 A6 4.2 |
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For the same money, I bought a used 2002 Audi S8 (like the one in Ronin).
Unbelievable!!! Buy a certified pre-owned, and you'll have a warranty as
well.
"Seth Brundle" <brundlefly76@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:53e2ec95.0412020950.1a92dfc3@posting.google.com...
| Quote: | I have a 2000 540i, and am looking to upgrade.
It looks like a dead heat between the 05 545i and 05 A6 4.2.
BMW has put me in such a difficult position with their pricing, body
design, and iDrive.
The first time I saw a 2005 545i I was like 'YUCK!!!'. I mean I really
wanted to like it but I just could not as hard as I tried. It truly
looks terrible to me, my girlfriend had the exact same reaction.
Meanwhile, the A6 is a very pedestrian Audi design - better in that it
doesnt bother me.
The Audi is limited to 130 MPH and although thats unfortunate, I think
I've only exceeded that once in the 540i anyway, and just briefly. The
540i is slightly faster in acceleration thanks to the torque if not
the HP.
I know I'll like driving the BMW more, thats what got me the 540i.
I've driven Audis - they are 'smooth' - real smooth, but Im not
looking for smooth, I like 'fun'.
Anyways - opinions? |
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Scott C
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Fri Dec 03, 2004 5:40 am Post subject:
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Randy, I also looked at the RL -have driven twice now.. not the same class
as BMW, but the standard features in the RL are great. Got the Blue Tooth
working with my phone the last time I drive one. I'm thinking this way too..
but doubt I'll make the move to the RL.. but have not ruled it out yet.
sc
"Randy S" <mikado95@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20041202134811.11588.00001529@mb-m29.aol.com...
| Quote: | I'm a German car fan myself (have two Mercedes) and have been looking at
the
5-series (hate iDrive) and the new A6 as well. However, I've had horrible
experiences with Mercedes service, and a friend has had similar experience
with
his older Audi A6. I actually stopped in and looked at the new Acura RL
yesterday, and I was very impressed overall. I didn't drive it however,
and
I'm sure its 300-HP V6 isn't in the same torque league as the German V8s.
However, for $49,000 loaded with Navi, all-wheel-drive, e.t.c. (there are
no
options), it's a bargin. I just wish the backseat was bigger.
Randy |
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E.R.
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Fri Dec 03, 2004 3:48 pm Post subject:
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In a previous posting, brundlefly76@hotmail.com (Seth Brundle)
had the audacity to say:
:I have a 2000 540i, and am looking to upgrade.
:It looks like a dead heat between the 05 545i and 05 A6 4.2.
They're both very nice cars imo.
:The first time I saw a 2005 545i I was like 'YUCK!!!'.
I dunno, I think the new 5ers look just fine. But I suppose they
are a bit of an acquired taste.
:The Audi is limited to 130 MPH and although thats unfortunate,
Yes, but it should be sharkable (once the car is broken in of
course). I agree that governors that artifically limit the top
speed of a very well engineered and capable vehicle are a
terrible thing, just in principle. That the driver may never
intend to drive faster than 110 mph or whatever is beside the
point.
The Euro spec version of that car would probably be restricted
to a much more reasonable 155 mph.
:I think
:I've only exceeded that once in the 540i anyway, and just briefly.
Probably nothing reckless about that, those are very capable and
well handling cars. When one drives a superior quality vehicle,
one doesn't notice the speed as much. 130 mph in your 540 would
probably feel more sedate and planted than 90 mph in my old (no
longer driven) Grand Scam...
:I know I'll like driving the BMW more, thats what got me the 540i.
:I've driven Audis - they are 'smooth' - real smooth, but Im not
:looking for smooth, I like 'fun'.
Audis aren't fun? I thought they were trying to copy BMW in
every way these days.
--
E.R. aka SJG aka Ricardo
present location: vancouver bc canada
refugee from the european union's evil bureaucracy |
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Charlie Giannetto
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Fri Dec 03, 2004 7:39 pm Post subject:
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In article <contns$95u$1@news.onet.pl>, Pete <escape2music@hotmail.com> wrote:
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"Tony" wrote
At an on track driving 'school' last spring I was driving a friend's
'04 S4 4.2 (which is also supposed to have a limit of 130) and was
hitting 150+ on the straight with a lot of room to go.
Tony
According to the US specs, the S4 is electronically limited to 155 mph.
And of course you can remove that limit by getting an aftermarket
chip/software as well.
Cheers,
Pete
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Although I haven't taken mine up past that value, the limiter on the
US S4 is on paper only (not actually turned on in the ECU software),
according to some reputable sources on the AudiWorld forums. The car
should top out at or around 170 (assuming you had a place that you
could actually reach that speed).
- Charlie |
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Fred W
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Fri Dec 03, 2004 8:07 pm Post subject:
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GRL wrote:
| Quote: | It may drive great and you can't tell how ugly it may be from inside, but
remember, every time that you go to drive it you're going to have to look at
it before you get inside.
A great drive is a great drive only while you're driving, but ugly is
forever.
- GRL
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Pshaa! When most people are concerned about these cars' supposed
"ugliness", what they are really concerned about is what other people
will think about the car when they drive by in it.
I, on the other hand, never actually drive my cars. I just go out to
the garage and look at them, so their beautiful design is of utmost
importance to me... (not!!) ;-)
-Fred W |
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LIW
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Fri Dec 03, 2004 9:29 pm Post subject:
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"Fred W" <Fred.Wills@SPAMmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | GRL wrote:
It may drive great and you can't tell how ugly it may be from inside,
but
remember, every time that you go to drive it you're going to have to
look at
it before you get inside.
A great drive is a great drive only while you're driving, but ugly is
forever.
- GRL
Pshaa! When most people are concerned about these cars' supposed
"ugliness", what they are really concerned about is what other people
will think about the car when they drive by in it.
I, on the other hand, never actually drive my cars. I just go out to
the garage and look at them, so their beautiful design is of utmost
importance to me... (not!!) ;-)
-Fred W
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Different strokes for different folks. I really enjoy the fact that my
silver S8 is very reserved looking, and stealthy. Once insde, particularly
at night when the white indicators spin up the red surrounds, it feels like
piloting a low flying jet. I think it is a combination of looks and feel,
and sound.
When I had my Viper it was more "instant celebrity" than in my current
Vette, but if I were going to go sit in the garage and just stare at a
machine, it would have to be a 12 cylinder Ferrari.
I still say, buy a used S8 for the price of either of the cars being
considered, and have it all!! |
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E.R.
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Sat Dec 04, 2004 2:16 am Post subject:
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In a previous posting, charlieg@ic.sunysb.edu (Charlie
Giannetto) had the audacity to say:
: Although I haven't taken mine up past that value, the limiter on the
:US S4 is on paper only
<Japanese voice>
Ahh, rawsuit protection! ;}
</Japanese voice>
:(not actually turned on in the ECU software),
:according to some reputable sources on the AudiWorld forums. The car
:should top out at or around 170 (assuming you had a place that you
:could actually reach that speed).
Are you sure it's not actually limited at all, assuming the
source rumour is correct? 'Cause I believe even the (original)
Euro spec cars have a 155 mph governor... which I personally
don't think is outrageous[ly low], but clearly a small
proportion of owners does.
--
E.R. aka SJG aka Ricardo
present location: vancouver bc canada
refugee from the european union's evil bureaucracy |
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