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Sat Dec 18, 2004 9:01 pm Post subject:
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Why do you believe companies are being greedy when they choose to
take advantage of the lower costs of complying with government
regulations, as well as lower environmental and labor costs by
producing some of their products in foreign countries to help
them compete with foreign manufactures? Are consumers also not
being greedy when they are doing the same thing more or more
every day? If the American consumers expect their to be jobs in
the future for their grandchildren, they better start buying more
products produced in America
mike hunt
Hugo Drax wrote:
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James, now why would GM thank you for writing when they don't want you
to write them? You're just a pain in the ass to them.
I know it's like cutting off my nose to spite my face, but in a way I
can't wait to see what they do when the Chinese start sending over
full sized cars for $10K with a 100K mile warranty. It's not that far
fetched really when you see digital multimeters for $6 and watches for
$1 that work OK.
People will buy them. It is a cycle that is going to wipe out the US.
American companies keep shipping work overseas to appease the shareholder
quest for topping the last Quaterly results resulting in short term penny
profiting and consumers with lower spending dollars will turn to lower
priced products from communist china etc.. to make up for the drop in
discretionary income. You have not seen anything yet, wait till your kids
grandchildren in the future grow up. |
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Sat Dec 18, 2004 9:30 pm Post subject:
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Camrys are only 'assembled' in the US of mostly imported parts.
Check the first number of the VIN, it is a '5.'
The accord is one of the few Japanese brand vehicles actually
built in the US of over 70% American parts and has a '1' as the
first number of the VIN. However Honda like Toyota pay zero in
US corporate income taxes. Contrary to what you believe GM and
Ford pay millions in US corporate income taxes
mike hunt
Hugo Drax wrote:
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MelvinGibson@mailcity.com> wrote in message
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GM is the number the #1 selling brand in the US and the world.
Ford is #2 in the US and the world, what's the problem? The vast
majority of their vehicles sold in the US carry a '1' as the
first digit of the VIN, meaning they are made in the US of over
70% American parts. The Camry carries a 'J' made in Japan or a
'5,' meaning they are only assembled in the US and of less than
40% American parts. The only Toyota with a '1' is the Tacoma made
in the GM/Toyota plant in California. Toyota is building a plant
in Mexico to make Tacoma trucks for the US market and a plant in
China to make Camrys for the US. Chrysler is no longer made by an
American corporation.
MB is a German corporation and Chrysler is only a holding company
but least they pay federal corporate taxes to the US. Japanese
corporation do not pay a penny in US federal corporate taxes.
Buy American, as the say, YOUR job depends on it.
mike hunt
American companies barely pay takes anyways. Besides what american jobs are
we saving, they ship them as fast as they can to India etc.. and this was
happening during record profit years.
All the Camarys etc.. I saw were made right here. even my wifes Accord is
made in Ohio. |
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J Oat
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Mon Dec 20, 2004 5:13 am Post subject:
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Mike you hit the nail right on its head. "products produced in America" and
not necessarily American brand.
a lot of the American brand are not even being produced here.
<MelvinGibson@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:41C4544B.A9A79391@mailcity.com...
| Quote: | Why do you believe companies are being greedy when they choose to
take advantage of the lower costs of complying with government
regulations, as well as lower environmental and labor costs by
producing some of their products in foreign countries to help
them compete with foreign manufactures? Are consumers also not
being greedy when they are doing the same thing more or more
every day? If the American consumers expect their to be jobs in
the future for their grandchildren, they better start buying more
products produced in America
mike hunt
Hugo Drax wrote:
James, now why would GM thank you for writing when they don't want you
to write them? You're just a pain in the ass to them.
I know it's like cutting off my nose to spite my face, but in a way I
can't wait to see what they do when the Chinese start sending over
full sized cars for $10K with a 100K mile warranty. It's not that far
fetched really when you see digital multimeters for $6 and watches for
$1 that work OK.
People will buy them. It is a cycle that is going to wipe out the US.
American companies keep shipping work overseas to appease the
shareholder
quest for topping the last Quaterly results resulting in short term
penny
profiting and consumers with lower spending dollars will turn to lower
priced products from communist china etc.. to make up for the drop in
discretionary income. You have not seen anything yet, wait till your
kids
grandchildren in the future grow up. |
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Mon Dec 20, 2004 10:31 pm Post subject:
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You are correct. When I buy a vehicle I make sure the first
number of the VIN is a '1,' which means it is made in the US of
more than 70% American parts. I would not by a Jaguar from Ford
that is made in England or a Dodge Ram made in Mexico of American
parts or a Tundra or Camry that are only assembled in the US of
less than 40% American parts.
When I purchase anything I try to buy those that have a 'Made in
USA' label, when ever possible. I even go as far as trying to
buy things made in NY, PA, NJ or Delaware, states in which I pay
taxes. We American should be as smart as the Japanese and buy
the products of our own county from our own manufactures whenever
possible. I avoid foreign brands that assemble in the US, like
Toyota, because they take all the millions of dollars of profits
they earn in the US out of the US corporate tax free.
mike hunt
J Oat wrote:
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Mike you hit the nail right on its head. "products produced in America" and
not necessarily American brand.
a lot of the American brand are not even being produced here.
MelvinGibson@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:41C4544B.A9A79391@mailcity.com...
Why do you believe companies are being greedy when they choose to
take advantage of the lower costs of complying with government
regulations, as well as lower environmental and labor costs by
producing some of their products in foreign countries to help
them compete with foreign manufactures? Are consumers also not
being greedy when they are doing the same thing more or more
every day? If the American consumers expect their to be jobs in
the future for their grandchildren, they better start buying more
products produced in America
mike hunt
Hugo Drax wrote:
James, now why would GM thank you for writing when they don't want you
to write them? You're just a pain in the ass to them.
I know it's like cutting off my nose to spite my face, but in a way I
can't wait to see what they do when the Chinese start sending over
full sized cars for $10K with a 100K mile warranty. It's not that far
fetched really when you see digital multimeters for $6 and watches for
$1 that work OK.
People will buy them. It is a cycle that is going to wipe out the US.
American companies keep shipping work overseas to appease the
shareholder
quest for topping the last Quaterly results resulting in short term
penny
profiting and consumers with lower spending dollars will turn to lower
priced products from communist china etc.. to make up for the drop in
discretionary income. You have not seen anything yet, wait till your
kids
grandchildren in the future grow up. |
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Silver Surfer
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Tue Dec 21, 2004 4:17 am Post subject:
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Right on Mike.
<MelvinGibson@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:41C70C67.998008C0@mailcity.com...
| Quote: | You are correct. When I buy a vehicle I make sure the first
number of the VIN is a '1,' which means it is made in the US of
more than 70% American parts. I would not by a Jaguar from Ford
that is made in England or a Dodge Ram made in Mexico of American
parts or a Tundra or Camry that are only assembled in the US of
less than 40% American parts.
When I purchase anything I try to buy those that have a 'Made in
USA' label, when ever possible. I even go as far as trying to
buy things made in NY, PA, NJ or Delaware, states in which I pay
taxes. We American should be as smart as the Japanese and buy
the products of our own county from our own manufactures whenever
possible. I avoid foreign brands that assemble in the US, like
Toyota, because they take all the millions of dollars of profits
they earn in the US out of the US corporate tax free.
mike hunt
J Oat wrote:
Mike you hit the nail right on its head. "products produced in America"
and
not necessarily American brand.
a lot of the American brand are not even being produced here.
MelvinGibson@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:41C4544B.A9A79391@mailcity.com...
Why do you believe companies are being greedy when they choose to
take advantage of the lower costs of complying with government
regulations, as well as lower environmental and labor costs by
producing some of their products in foreign countries to help
them compete with foreign manufactures? Are consumers also not
being greedy when they are doing the same thing more or more
every day? If the American consumers expect their to be jobs in
the future for their grandchildren, they better start buying more
products produced in America
mike hunt
Hugo Drax wrote:
James, now why would GM thank you for writing when they don't want
you
to write them? You're just a pain in the ass to them.
I know it's like cutting off my nose to spite my face, but in a way
I
can't wait to see what they do when the Chinese start sending over
full sized cars for $10K with a 100K mile warranty. It's not that
far
fetched really when you see digital multimeters for $6 and watches
for
$1 that work OK.
People will buy them. It is a cycle that is going to wipe out the US.
American companies keep shipping work overseas to appease the
shareholder
quest for topping the last Quaterly results resulting in short term
penny
profiting and consumers with lower spending dollars will turn to
lower
priced products from communist china etc.. to make up for the drop in
discretionary income. You have not seen anything yet, wait till your
kids
grandchildren in the future grow up. |
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