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Dan Stephenson
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Thu Jul 07, 2005 8:12 am Post subject:
Thoughts on the Cayenne vs. Touareg |
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I've read this site for some time but don't quite remember this coming
up.
I'm contemplating getting a mid-sized SUV for road trips, camping in
the back of the vehicle instead of in a tent on the ground, and want
something with some off-road capability to handle those "jeep trails"
you sometimes come across in national parks, but which my Boxster
cannot handle in any way. If I want sporty driving, I'll stick with my
Boxster.
So obviously the Cayenne comes to mind, but as we know the Touareg is a
sister vehicle. Just on the first-looks at the two vehicles, they're
very similar except that the Porsche price is significant higher. For
example, the V6/240hp Touareg "starts at $37k" and the V6/247hp is
around $42k. The V8/310hp Touareg "starts at $44k", whereas the
V8/340hp Cayenne goes for $57k.
Before I go out and test drive these vehicles, can someone give me
something to look for, to help me decide my preference? Marque is
nice, but worth $5k - $13k? Does that Porsche come with features the
VW does? I don't see that though..
Thanks! please post
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Dan Stephenson
Photos and movies from US Parks and all over Europe:
http://homepage.mac.com/stepheda
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The Dead Senator
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Thu Jul 07, 2005 8:14 am Post subject:
Re: Thoughts on the Cayenne vs. Touareg |
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Jim Keenan wrote:
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we got a Cayenne S loaner for a few days when the 996 was in for rear tires.
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A few days for rear tires???
Wow. I must know ~where~ this dealer is. |
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Jim Keenan
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Thu Jul 07, 2005 8:14 am Post subject:
Re: Thoughts on the Cayenne vs. Touareg |
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"Dan Stephenson" <stephedanospam@mac.com> wrote in message
news:060720052212511534%stephedanospam@mac.com...
| Quote: | I've read this site for some time but don't quite remember this coming
up.
I'm contemplating getting a mid-sized SUV for road trips, camping in
the back of the vehicle instead of in a tent on the ground, and want
something with some off-road capability to handle those "jeep trails"
you sometimes come across in national parks, but which my Boxster
cannot handle in any way. If I want sporty driving, I'll stick with my
Boxster.
So obviously the Cayenne comes to mind, but as we know the Touareg is a
sister vehicle. Just on the first-looks at the two vehicles, they're
very similar except that the Porsche price is significant higher. For
example, the V6/240hp Touareg "starts at $37k" and the V6/247hp is
around $42k. The V8/310hp Touareg "starts at $44k", whereas the
V8/340hp Cayenne goes for $57k.
Before I go out and test drive these vehicles, can someone give me
something to look for, to help me decide my preference? Marque is
nice, but worth $5k - $13k? Does that Porsche come with features the
VW does? I don't see that though..
Thanks! please post
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We have a 2001 Acura MDX in addition to a 2002 996 and we got a Cayenne S
loaner for a few days when the 996 was in for rear tires. Very fast,
excellent handling (for an SUV) and comfortable as well. If money were no
object I'd get the S in a heartbeat. Never driven a Touareg.
That having been said, if you're looking to spend in the high $30/low $40k
region you can get a loaded MDX for about $42k - touring and navigation/rear
seat DVD packages. The new ones have 265 HP and for the money I'd take it
over either V6 German model. Ours has been trouble free since new, is
comfortable, handles OK (for an SUV) and gets 22+ MPG on the highway.
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Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:32 pm Post subject:
Re: Thoughts on the Cayenne vs. Touareg |
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Dan Stephenson wrote:
| Quote: | I've read this site for some time but don't quite remember this coming
up.
I'm contemplating getting a mid-sized SUV for road trips, camping in
the back of the vehicle instead of in a tent on the ground, and want
something with some off-road capability to handle those "jeep trails"
you sometimes come across in national parks, but which my Boxster
cannot handle in any way. If I want sporty driving, I'll stick with my
Boxster.
So obviously the Cayenne comes to mind, but as we know the Touareg is a
sister vehicle. Just on the first-looks at the two vehicles, they're
very similar except that the Porsche price is significant higher. For
example, the V6/240hp Touareg "starts at $37k" and the V6/247hp is
around $42k. The V8/310hp Touareg "starts at $44k", whereas the
V8/340hp Cayenne goes for $57k.
Before I go out and test drive these vehicles, can someone give me
something to look for, to help me decide my preference? Marque is
nice, but worth $5k - $13k? Does that Porsche come with features the
VW does? I don't see that though..
Thanks! please post
--
Dan Stephenson
Photos and movies from US Parks and all over Europe:
http://homepage.mac.com/stepheda
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'06 touareg v-6 horsepower is going up by twenty some.......
regards |
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John Doe
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Thu Jul 07, 2005 4:13 pm Post subject:
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| I'd take the Touareg with the diesel. |
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Dan Stephenson
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Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:14 pm Post subject:
Re: Thoughts on the Cayenne vs. Touareg |
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In article <D%1ze.62446$go.2218@fed1read05>, Jim Keenan
<jimkeenan@cox.net> wrote:
| Quote: | "Dan Stephenson" <stephedanospam@mac.com> wrote in message
news:060720052212511534%stephedanospam@mac.com...
I've read this site for some time but don't quite remember this coming
up.
I'm contemplating getting a mid-sized SUV for road trips, camping in
the back of the vehicle instead of in a tent on the ground, and want
something with some off-road capability to handle those "jeep trails"
you sometimes come across in national parks, but which my Boxster
cannot handle in any way. If I want sporty driving, I'll stick with my
Boxster.
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| Quote: | That having been said, if you're looking to spend in the high $30/low $40k
region you can get a loaded MDX for about $42k - touring and navigation/rear
seat DVD packages. The new ones have 265 HP and for the money I'd take it
over either V6 German model. Ours has been trouble free since new, is
comfortable, handles OK (for an SUV) and gets 22+ MPG on the highway.
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Is the MDX big enough in the back to stretch out? Does it have decent
ground clearance and 4WD?
--
Dan Stephenson
Photos and movies from US Parks and all over Europe:
http://homepage.mac.com/stepheda |
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Dan Stephenson
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Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:15 pm Post subject:
Re: Thoughts on the Cayenne vs. Touareg |
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In article <UeidnR8HSZZCz1DfRVn-iA@centurytel.net>, John Doe
<firsTraveler@centurytel.net> wrote:
| Quote: | I'd take the Touareg with the diesel.
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That wasn't on offer on their website, and I think it an Europe-only
option.
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Dan Stephenson
Photos and movies from US Parks and all over Europe:
http://homepage.mac.com/stepheda |
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Jim Keenan
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Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:14 am Post subject:
Re: Thoughts on the Cayenne vs. Touareg |
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"The Dead Senator" <deadsenator@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Jim Keenan wrote:
we got a Cayenne S loaner for a few days when the 996 was in for rear
tires.
A few days for rear tires???
Wow. I must know ~where~ this dealer is.
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They scratched the wheels installing the tires and had to fix their goof. |
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Jim Keenan
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Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:14 am Post subject:
Re: Thoughts on the Cayenne vs. Touareg |
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">> "Dan Stephenson" <stephedanospam@mac.com> wrote > Is the MDX big enough
in the back to stretch out? Does it have decent
| Quote: | ground clearance and 4WD?
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I'm 6' 2" and with the rear seats folded down and the front seat moved
forward I can lay out flat in the back. Ground clearance is about 8 inches.
Our MDX has a limited 4WD capability - we can manually select 4WD for speeds
up to 18mph, but beyond 18 mph the car reverts to FWD. It's enough to help
you get unstuck should the need arise, but the car is primarily meant for
highways. If you're really looking to tromp through the boonies, the MDX,
Cayenne and Touareg are probably not what you want.
The new MDX has an automatic 4WD system and can also be selected manually,
but I'm not sure if the speed constraints apply. |
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Fri Jul 08, 2005 4:13 pm Post subject:
Re: Thoughts on the Cayenne vs. Touareg |
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Jim Keenan wrote:
| Quote: | ">> "Dan Stephenson" <stephedanospam@mac.com> wrote > Is the MDX big enough
in the back to stretch out? Does it have decent
ground clearance and 4WD?
I'm 6' 2" and with the rear seats folded down and the front seat moved
forward I can lay out flat in the back. Ground clearance is about 8 inches.
Our MDX has a limited 4WD capability - we can manually select 4WD for speeds
up to 18mph, but beyond 18 mph the car reverts to FWD. It's enough to help
you get unstuck should the need arise, but the car is primarily meant for
highways. If you're really looking to tromp through the boonies, the MDX,
Cayenne and Touareg are probably not what you want.
The new MDX has an automatic 4WD system and can also be selected manually,
but I'm not sure if the speed constraints apply.
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with all due respect to your opinion, i'd have to strongly disagree with your
conclusion relating to the off road capabilities of either the porsche or vw
models....either one is engineered to do exactly the kind of activity you
describe...from the short f and r overhangs to the protection offered underneath
to all drive components...the anti skid/wheel spin on each wheel to prevent
slip/slide of wheel[s] understress.....to the locking hubs....they are all
designed for the off roader...one of the slams against each is the over built
nature for the people who simply like to go grocery shopping in their "sport
ute"
regards |
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Jim Keenan
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Fri Jul 08, 2005 10:59 pm Post subject:
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<euro930@comcast.net> wrote in message
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with all due respect to your opinion, i'd have to strongly disagree with
your
conclusion relating to the off road capabilities of either the porsche or
vw
models....either one is engineered to do exactly the kind of activity you
describe...from the short f and r overhangs to the protection offered
underneath
to all drive components...the anti skid/wheel spin on each wheel to
prevent
slip/slide of wheel[s] understress.....to the locking hubs....they are all
designed for the off roader...one of the slams against each is the over
built
nature for the people who simply like to go grocery shopping in their
"sport
ute"
regards
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Point taken on the hardware. The platform of the German cars is certainly
more purpose-built than the MDX, which is a Honda Odyssey platform, but I
think if one's primary purpose is serious off road activity vs. having an
off road capability, all three are too "nice" and expensive for that job.
Car and Driver did a road test on a Cayenne S around the time the model was
introduced. Two guys in a Chevy 4x4 had to pull the Cayenne out of a bog
with their winch when the C&D guys got stuck. |
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Dan Stephenson
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Sun Jul 10, 2005 4:13 pm Post subject:
Re: Thoughts on the Cayenne vs. Touareg |
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In article <42CE9530.F0D64B09@comcast.net>, <euro930@comcast.net> wrote:
| Quote: | with all due respect to your opinion, i'd have to strongly disagree with your
conclusion relating to the off road capabilities of either the porsche or vw
models....either one is engineered to do exactly the kind of activity you
describe...from the short f and r overhangs to the protection offered
underneath
to all drive components...the anti skid/wheel spin on each wheel to prevent
slip/slide of wheel[s] understress.....to the locking hubs....they are all
designed for the off roader...one of the slams against each is the over built
nature for the people who simply like to go grocery shopping in their "sport
ute"
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I would be looking for something that could go on trail made of rocks
the size of softballs.
My boxster sure cannot!
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Dan Stephenson
Photos and movies from US Parks and all over Europe:
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Low Life #3
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Sun Jul 10, 2005 4:13 pm Post subject:
Re: Thoughts on the Cayenne vs. Touareg |
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"Dan Stephenson" <stephedanospam@mac.com> wrote in message
news:060720052212511534%stephedanospam@mac.com...
: I've read this site for some time but don't quite remember this coming
: up.
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ADAC, the German Auto Club (well one of two actually), did a 4X4 shoot-out.
They went to a field next to a ski slope gave each SUV about 100 meters to
build up momentum and then up the ski slope (covered in snow) Touareg (the
10 cylinder beast) blew everyone away my climbing more than 50 meters
further up the slope than any other SUV. The Porsche didn't do too badly,
but not as well as the Grand Cherokee and the BMWs did poorly. |
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Stuart Whitfield
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Tue Jul 12, 2005 12:14 am Post subject:
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Being a Brit I have to dare to ask whether you've considered a Discovery or
Range Rover Sport?!
"Low Life #3" <holden_mcthynge@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | "Dan Stephenson" <stephedanospam@mac.com> wrote in message
news:060720052212511534%stephedanospam@mac.com...
: I've read this site for some time but don't quite remember this coming
: up.
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ADAC, the German Auto Club (well one of two actually), did a 4X4
shoot-out.
They went to a field next to a ski slope gave each SUV about 100 meters to
build up momentum and then up the ski slope (covered in snow) Touareg (the
10 cylinder beast) blew everyone away my climbing more than 50 meters
further up the slope than any other SUV. The Porsche didn't do too badly,
but not as well as the Grand Cherokee and the BMWs did poorly.
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Low Life #3
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Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:14 am Post subject:
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"Stuart Whitfield" <frenchaystuart@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:ZHBAe.24868$O22.6378@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
: Being a Brit I have to dare to ask whether you've considered a Discovery
or
: Range Rover Sport?!
the defender is nice, and then there's the Bowler Off-Road Wildcat which is
probably the wildest ride on the planet, 0-60 faster than a 996 (and that's
on asphalt). |
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